Hey All,

Got kind of a nightmare in the shop. 07 F250 6.0 with 218,000 ish miles on it. Been to several other shops in the area. Its running on 3 cylinders, has the wrong oil filter and cap, some cheap fuel filters, the owner doesn't know the last time the primary filter was replaced, as they kept giving him the "bigger" filter, he said no one could ever figure out why the box came with 2. Its had an egr delete at some point in its life, and the egr valve is missing. The truck is tuned but he doesn't know by who and was never given the tuning device when the truck was picked up. The truck is in relatively good shape for a rust belt truck so someone took some sort of care to it.

So here is my plan of attack:

Not knowing who's injectors are in it or what they are , they have been "upgraded" at some point according to the owner, I will replace all 8 with reman Ford injectors since I've got 5 down anyway. FICM voltage looks good, so I may just replace the relay, but I may send it out too. Ill make that decision after I get it off the truck and check the date. Blue Spring Kit, and depending how the intake looks I may send that out to be hot tanked. Also gonna do the glow plugs and harnesses.

New stand pipes, dummy plugs, Ill inspect the HPO rails, it has a Dorman oil cooler so that will be replaced with a Ford cooler as well, has green coolant, and I think I'm going to put an IPR EGR cooler delete in it, I've been using them with great success, I like the fact that there is no hose to leak.

The truck has been sitting a while, so I will go through the turbo and make sure the veins aren't stuck and the unison ring isn't pitted to death.

It will get the correct oil filter and cap, fresh oil obviously, and new fuel filters. I'm also gonna remove the pump and thoroughly inspect and clean the housing.

Last but not least Ill reflash it back to stock and then he can decide down the road weather or not he wants to tune it, after gauges of course. And Ill need to track down an EGR valve so the truck runs properly and the CEL stays off.

Not sure if I missed anything, I'm trying to sell the customer on the coolant filter but he's not biting on it, Ill keep trying. Post comments if you think I missed anything and Ill add it to the list.

The customer has a budget, but he's ok with spending extra on the right things.

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!!!

Sarge

 

Putting the valve in with a delete will still have a cel on an 07.

 

Go back with an ELC instead of gold. Looks like you've got a good plan.

 

Like he said.
Which is why they had a tuner on it. To keep the light off.

 

5 injectors failed? How are you starting the truck?

 

It runs, not well, but it runs...surprisingly.

The CEL isn't on, but shows an insufficient flow code, for obvious reasons. Ill have to see what I can do about a tuner then since I have no idea what's in it.

Any particular brand of ELC that everyone likes?

Sarge

 

Glad you asked that question, as I had thought about getting a thread going just on that but was planning on some research over on BITOG 1st. Not that I know of anything wrong with it, but I would pass over the the Zerex ZXED1 that many have used and go with one of these three, but there may be others: Mobil Delvac, Chevron Delo or Peak Final Charge -- the ones that say a million mile change interval. Why? because I just used the Zerex and happened to read over the label while I was waiting for the current engine flush to get up to temp. The three I mention (again, there are more I'm sure but at least those 3), all say they can handle up to 25% of another coolant and not diminish there effectiveness. Whereas the Zerex said ANY other coolant would effect it. It also was a 600,000 mile coolant, not sure why.

Longer response than you maybe wanted, but that is where I'll be going next time. And again, I was planning on doing a bit more research, but hey, you asked...

 

With all this truck needs and they balk on a coolant filter. Run, Run, Run. JMHO. Your gonna get burned Sarge.

 

He knows full well whats going on and what may need to be done. I'm sure as long as I don't find much more when I tear it down that he will go for the coolant filter.

I don't think I'll get burned, I guess if I do it wont be the first time.

Sarge

 

Not sure what the laws are in your area, but as long as you have a signed work order authorizing the work and listing the consequences for failing to pay, you should be good. Worse case, if he doesn't pay, you end up owning his truck.

Sounds like you have a solid plan, but I'd steer clear of IPR and the EGR Delete. There seems to be a quality control issue and it's causing a lot of leaks. Anthony knows first hand...if it were me, I'd look at a Dieselsite EGR delete.

 

I run an IPR on my truck, have for quite a while, no leaks no issues. Not saying there couldn't be. My feeling is that the hose that comes with the other deletes suck and I've seen more issues with the hose then anything.

I don't think it will be an issue of paying, but yes he has given the go ahead and left a deposit. I spoke directly to the owner of the company, not the guy that drives the truck. I think he's more upset at what's been done to the truck previously than anything else.

Ill Check Dieselsite and see what he's selling for a cooler delete kit.

Sarge

 

Diesel site still has a hose

 

This seems like a silly reason to not use the zerex. Advise customer to not mix coolant and include a new bottle upon delivery just in case. Also, no one should leave coolant in any vehicle for 600,000 miles let alone 1,000,000.

 

Well I finally tore this truck down last week man oh man what a mess the last repair shop created. Stripped valve cover bolts, FICM connectors not properly seated, so after finding that turns out 3 injectors fail the contribution test, 2 missing turbo mounting bolts and 1 was the wrong bolt (had 5 washers on it), loose injector hold downs, stripped HPO rail torx bolts and the list goes on.

I think the most important thing I found was the oil filter stand pipe is damaged from a non OE filter. I think I may have saved this trucks life. So tomorrow Ill order parts and begin assembling the truck properly and repairing the sins as I move through the top end. Ill snap some pics of the stand pipe tomorrow and post up.

Happy New Year Folks!!!!

Sarge

 

Happy New Year and good luck. You may need it. Lol