I think it's quite pertinent to his question. The original question was, "does anyone run weight in their bed during the winter?" My answer is no, I do not. And I proceeded to explain why, much in the same fashion that those who DO put weight in the bed explained their choice.

No, I don't think I'm "an awesome driver in the snow," simply experienced. I've learned how to do it safely. If I continue to drive as I have in the past, then I shouldn't ever lose control to the point that I go off the road or collide with someone/something. Freak accidents do happen, though. You never know. My number may get called regardless of the precautions I take.

 

Looks to me like he's asking: 1st, Does anyone run weight in their bed in the winter because he doesn't have traction in 2wd and doesn't feel like driving in 4wd all the time. 2nd question is- What weight are people running?
He doesn't want to do that, hence why he's asking about weight.
^^Here's a simple response that you agree with in your next statement below.
Here you're explaining how your driving conditions are probably worse than anyone else's, but not taking the OP's possible driving conditions into consideration.
If this isn't tooting your own horn, I don't know what is. The last thing I would ever recommend to someone is that it's ok to drive in snowy conditions with all season tires. I realize that you're not recommending all seasons, but why are you talking about it then? Toot! Toot!

Toot! Toot!
Luck plays into it as well. They don't call them accidents for nothing.
I quoted your last post to show you that you didn't really read the original post completely before responding to the perceived question and subsequently backing up your original answer with more non-pertinent information.

 

I'm normally a pretty patient guy but when it comes to my truck when it needs to move I want it to move NOW... The front hubs on my 06 have been locked in since 2010 and if traction is at all compromised it's in 4x4.
4wd on the truck is almost used daily all year long, has been used at 60/70MPH on mixed black ice on pavement for extended periods and it's yet to have an issue... why pay for a 4wd if you aren't going to use it? Not using it is when you run into problems in my opinion.

Edit, I don't add any weight to my trucks bed for winter. I do throw a shovel and 30ft steel tow Cable in back... mostly to dig and pull other vehicles out and the shovel I have actually used on my truck on one occasion. Trying to tackle an 100ft long 5ft deep snowdrift was a bad bad idea.

 

Because my answer to his first question was negative, there is no way in which I could answer part two of his query.

I realize he doesn't want to run his truck in 4wd. Personally, I don't understand why he owns a 4x4 if he doesn't want to use it, but that's his choice. I was only reinforcing the notion that relying on 4x4 when necessary is a valid option.

Yes, I agree that unladen trucks are typically light over the rear axle. That is by design. However, it does not bear full responsibility for dictating one's driving choices.

I never suggested my driving conditions are "worse" than anyone else's. However, yes, most places in Alaska get more extreme winters than most other areas of the country. I was not comparing any two locations, simply saying what I do in the winter.

I am endorsing using all season tires. Personally, I use Hankook Dynapro ATM tires on my trucks. They are technically an "all terrain/off-road" tire, but because they work effectively in all seasons, they are, to me, "all season" tires. "All-season" may have a different, technical meaning in the tire industry, and if so then oh well.

Not trying to "toot my own horn" at all. Again, simply trying to illustrate the fact that how you drive is more important than what you're driving.

Once again, "toot toot" nothing. I was responding to another poster telling me that I'll "get in trouble eventually"; a statement with which I disagree.

Luck plays a minor role. If the vehicle malfunctions due to a design or manufacturing flaw, or you're hit by an avalanche, those are examples of "accidents". If you simply lose control while driving, that is not an accident. In an accident, no party is at fault. If you lose control while driving, you're doing something wrong. There's a reason police officers call them "motor vehicle collisions," not "accidents". Barring an act of God or an equipment malfunction, there is always somebody at fault. That is negligence, not an accident.

I did read the original post. Again, because I do not use any additional weight in the bed of my truck, I cannot answer the question regarding how much weight I use.

 

I think I'll run about 600 pounds in the bed

 

And yes, I have driven Ford super duty the last 7 years of my life and never had an issue in the winter. But I also don't feel like taking it in and out of 4x4 over and over on a trip across town because the road conditions may vary in a light storm. I'd rather have weight on my rear end and be able to drive in 2wd. Half the idiots around me are in fwd cars in a storm...but my 8000 pound truck has no traction. I am a comfortable driver in any condition, and bought a 4x4 truck for a reason. Not for small snow storms. Thanks for everyone's input on the topic

 

Obviously you do not feel you have to and feel you are smarter and a better driver than millions of pickup owners and truckers across this great country. If you can survive with no extra weight, good for you, I hope your luck holds out, when it doesn't I hope no one else is hurt and you have good insurance..... Yes, I heard your rant about growing up in the snow so you know how its done, guess what, a lot of us did and one of the worst areas for driving on ice is Grand Forks ND.....so, rant all you want, just makes you look more foolish

 

Good for you

 

I just leave my hitch in and as needed add bags of salt. I use the salt up in the softener no muss no fuss.

 

You must be omniscient, telling me what I think or don't think. Tell me, are you truly a mind reader, or just a self absorbed ******* who can't stand someone holding an opinion counter to his own?

The average driver in this country is involved in a collision approximately every seven years. I've been driving much longer than that, and I've never been in a collision. So, if you want to look at the statistics, yeah, I'm a better than average driver. After all, that's how averages work. Some will be above, some will be below.

Yup, a lot of people grow up in the snow. And a lot of people drive like idiots in the snow, too.

Just because I operate my vehicles different than you you operate yours does not make me foolish. They are properly equipped for the conditions in which I drive, and they work efficiently and safely. You are the one making yourself look foolish, pretending like you know that my setup is wrong for my conditions.

Good day.

 

LOL....>Funny

 

Silly pissing contest aside, does anybody know how much snow in the bed weights on average? I'm sure different types of snow would be different but on average.

 

Water weighs 8lbs a gallon, snow is frozen water so should weigh the same (not packed as tight as an ice block so not fully the same but this is just for guesstimation) , if you figure the cubic footage of the bed it should give a good estimate.....6.5' bed is around 35 cubic ft or 262 gallons which would be about 2100 lbs if the snow was level with the bed, packed tight and very wet snow, light snow would probably be about half that

 

I can tell you if my bed is full of snow, there is 0 sag, but with my 600lb snowmobile you can notice a slight drop

 

I'm thinking the same thing.