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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 03:00 AM
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1967 Ford F600 VIN decoding

Hello everyone,
my name is Gunter from Germany working on a 1967 F600 Dually Pick Up.
I am looking for brake parts, parts to rebuild the suspension and to tune
up the engine. But I can not identify the size of the engine. It is a V8 in there.
The oil filter is a FRAM PH8A. But I am wondering if someone here on this forum can help to decode my VIN to identify the engine and vehicle specs ?
The VIN is: F60CEB55465
Also, if anyone can recommend parts suppliers please do so. Thank you guys.
 
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The infamous Florida HOA F-600 lives on in Germany.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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The infamous Florida HOA F-600 lives on in Germany.
When I read this post Rich I . But then I thought wait a minute. That Florida truck DID look like this. And I'll be danged.




IT IS IT! I guess the HOA won.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter Ettel
Hello everyone,
my name is Gunter from Germany working on a 1967 F600 Dually Pick Up.
I am looking for brake parts, parts to rebuild the suspension and to tune
up the engine. But I can not identify the size of the engine. It is a V8 in there.
The oil filter is a FRAM PH8A. But I am wondering if someone here on this forum can help to decode my VIN to identify the engine and vehicle specs ?
The VIN is: F60CEB55465
Also, if anyone can recommend parts suppliers please do so. Thank you guys.
F60 equals F600,gas, 4X2.
C equals....330 2 barrel, Medium Duty. Originally. Your truck may have something different now. 330 Medium Duties were more akin to FE motors like a 352,360,390,427,428 rather than FT motors 330 H.D.,361,and 391.
E equals built in the Mahwah assembly plant.
B55765 is the numerical sequence for the 1967 model year.
I would suggest measuring the stroke to see what engine it has now. When you take the old spark plugs out spin the engine by hand until #1 is at TDC on the compression stroke. Orich's trick is to take something like a wooden dowel and stick it in cylinders #1 and #4. Touch the top of the pistons and use the edge of the valve cover as a reference. In each cylinder mark where that edge is on the wooden dowel. #1 will be all the way up and #4 will be all the way down. So the difference inn your two marks will be the stroke of that engine. Doing a google search I found 330s had a bore and stroke of "The 330FT has the smallest bore of any FE/FT engine at 3.875. The 330MD(medium duty) uses a standard 352 crank(3.5" stroke)."


330 M.D., 352, and 360 were 3.5".
390, 406 427 were 3.78".
410 and 428 were 3.98"


By the way, No F600 back in hose days came with a pickup bed. This is a Custom Build.
For a supplier for the parts you are looking for I suggest "Rock Auto".
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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For a supplier for the parts you are looking for I suggest "Rock Auto".
Unfortunately Rock auto does not list the F600 you have to supply a part number first to find the parts. Napa does list it though.

And I thought the same thing, looks like the HOA won.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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Unfortunately Rock auto does not list the F600 you have to supply a part number first to find the parts. Napa does list it though.

And I thought the same thing, looks like the HOA won.

I can supply the Ford part numbers if OP tells us the front brake size. In his pic they look pretty small. So I'm guessing 14" X 2 1/2". 15" X 3" also listed for a hydraulic brake F600.
**Note. Back then Ford did not have "spring kits". Everything was separate. ****
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 02:52 AM
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Gunter Ettel, welcome to "THE" Ford Truck Forum. Where do you live in Germany?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 03:26 AM
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Hello Jeff. Thank you four your helpful reply

Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
F60 equals F600,gas, 4X2.
C equals....330 2 barrel, Medium Duty. Originally. Your truck may have something different now. 330 Medium Duties were more akin to FE motors like a 352,360,390,427,428 rather than FT motors 330 H.D.,361,and 391.
E equals built in the Mahwah assembly plant.
B55765 is the numerical sequence for the 1967 model year.
I would suggest measuring the stroke to see what engine it has now. When you take the old spark plugs out spin the engine by hand until #1 is at TDC on the compression stroke. Orich's trick is to take something like a wooden dowel and stick it in cylinders #1 and #4. Touch the top of the pistons and use the edge of the valve cover as a reference. In each cylinder mark where that edge is on the wooden dowel. #1 will be all the way up and #4 will be all the way down. So the difference inn your two marks will be the stroke of that engine. Doing a google search I found 330s had a bore and stroke of "The 330FT has the smallest bore of any FE/FT engine at 3.875. The 330MD(medium duty) uses a standard 352 crank(3.5" stroke)."


330 M.D., 352, and 360 were 3.5".
390, 406 427 were 3.78".
410 and 428 were 3.98"


By the way, No F600 back in hose days came with a pickup bed. This is a Custom Build.
For a supplier for the parts you are looking for I suggest "Rock Auto".

I am new here and never used a forum of any kind. Please excuse me if I am doing something wrong here. I want to thank Jeff for being so kind and helping not only to decode the VIN, but to also help with information on how to identify the displacement. Yes, the truck is in Germany now and it is so cool to see a picture when the truck was still in Florida.
Yes, Rock Auto does not have the F600 listed. I need the part numbers to get parts for this truck.
The most important parts I am searching for right now are to rebuild the complete brakes and front end.
The front brakes appear to be 14 x 2,5 inch
and the rear 15 x 4 inch

I could identify the front wheel cylinder as part # 34074 available from rock auto. But I could not yet identify the rear wheel cylinders. It looks like the
numbers on it say 28663 5G or 38663 A26 and both numbers do not show
any result in Rock Auto part number search.
Does anybody have any idea which rear wheel cylinders I need ?

I am also looking for a new master cylinder and all parts to completely rebuild the front end...everything, tie rods, idler arm, A-frame bushings...
and other parts. Where can I puchase front end parts ?

Thank you Jeff (and anyone here on tis forum)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 03:37 AM
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Thank you

Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
I can supply the Ford part numbers if OP tells us the front brake size. In his pic they look pretty small. So I'm guessing 14" X 2 1/2". 15" X 3" also listed for a hydraulic brake F600.
**Note. Back then Ford did not have "spring kits". Everything was separate. ****
Thank you Sir

The brakes size appears to be and I assume the inch size:
Front 36 cm x 6 cm assume 14 x 2,5
Rear 38 cm x 10 cm assume 15 x 4

Can I buy shoes somewhere or do they need to be relined ?
I could identify the front wheel zylinders to be # 34074 available through
Rock Auto. But I could not yet identify the rear wheel cylinders.
It says something like 38663 A26 or 28663 5G on them and none of the
number come up as good.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 04:18 AM
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Hello Gary

Originally Posted by GaryKip
Gunter Ettel, welcome to "THE" Ford Truck Forum. Where do you live in Germany?
Hello Gary,
thank you for asking. I live in Coburg (Bavaria) Germany. I was born in Germany and at the age of 24 years old in 1989 I moved to NC and got married there and became a car dealer for classic cars and had my own little classic car restoration shop. After 13 years of marriage with a carolina girl the marriage fell apart and I moved to Florida and lived there single another 13 years.
3 years ago I moved back to my native Germany and now I have an online auto parts business. Home
Now I have a sweet Russian girlfriend
The 1967 F600 parts are for an auto repair shop in Germany and I am trying to help locating the parts.
I want to thank everyone on this forum for being so kind and helping in this matter to get this rare F600 back on the highway
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter Ettel
Thank you Sir

The brakes size appears to be and I assume the inch size:
Front 36 cm x 6 cm assume 14 x 2,5
Rear 38 cm x 10 cm assume 15 x 4

Can I buy shoes somewhere or do they need to be relined ?
I could identify the front wheel zylinders to be # 34074 available through
Rock Auto. But I could not yet identify the rear wheel cylinders.
It says something like 38663 A26 or 28663 5G on them and none of the
number come up as good.
Everything is available from NAPA but they don't ship at least here they do not. I cant get any of the Napa parts to cross over to Rock Auto but that is likely me.

Car Parts and Accessories - NAPA Canada Auto Parts or Car Parts and Accessories - NAPA USA Auto Parts


Raybestos makes the Master Cylinder PT#'s MC36127 1 1/2" Bore, MC36176 1 1/4" bore and MC36433 1 1/32" bore.

All are listed on Rockauto.

Centric also makes some of the brake parts but their catalog is not available on line to the general public. (the twits, I hate it when companies do that).

The best I could do with Centric brake is from AutoAtlanta most of the numbers to cross over with RockAuto

1967 FORD MD F F600 Brake Parts
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 06:17 AM
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Thank you Sir

Originally Posted by matthewq4b
Everything is available from NAPA but they don't ship at least here they do not. I cant get any of the Napa parts to cross over to Rock Auto but that is likely me.

Car Parts and Accessories - NAPA Canada Auto Parts or Car Parts and Accessories - NAPA USA Auto Parts


Raybestos makes the Master Cylinder PT#'s MC36127 1 1/2" Bore, MC36176 1 1/4" bore and MC36433 1 1/32" bore.

All are listed on Rockauto.

Centric also makes some of the brake parts but their catalog is not available on line to the general public. (the twits, I hate it when companies do that).

The best I could do with Centric brake is from AutoAtlanta most of the numbers to cross over with RockAuto

1967 FORD MD F F600 Brake Parts
Thank you so very much for your helpful information Sir
Ich will study all you information. Thanks to you I am a big step further
with my research.
Greetings from the "Old Country"
God bless
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter Ettel
Thank you so very much for your helpful information Sir
Ich will study all you information. Thanks to you I am a big step further
with my research.
Greetings from the "Old Country"
God bless

No Problem Gunter if you end up stuck let me know and I can pick the stuff up from NAPA and ship it to you. I get a 35-50% discount off list on most items with our NAPA account and with the Canuck dollar in the toilet the exchange is pretty favorable for you €1.00 Euro = $1.45 CAD.
 
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Originally Posted by Gunter Ettel
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Ford part numbers for the front brakes so far. (I'm at work now) Some of these 1967 F600 brake parts were 1967 and older. In 1968 they changed.


B7T2069A....brake shoe hold down pin.
B7A2066A....hold down spring cup.
TDAA2068A..hold down spring.
B7Q2035A (all 4) upper shoe return springs.
TDAA2049A...lower shoe return springs.
TDAA2047A & TDAA2041A & TDAA2048A are the 3 part numbers that made up the self adjusters.
C4TZ2061B...R/F wheel cylinder.
C4TZ2062B...L/F wheel cylinder.
C3TZ2007D...brake shoe lining kit.
C3TZ2007DMR...remanufactured brake shoe lining kit.
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On the master cylinder I show 2 choices.
1967 F500/600...with 11.50" booster..booster Midland Ross #C-4063...M/C I.D. 1 1/32"...part number C6TZ2140B.
OR
1963/70 F500/850 (with single hyd. vac. brakes)...with 12.75" booster...booster Bendix #2503258...M/C I.D. 1 1 1/2"...part number C3TZ2140L.
 
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