Holley 4180 Issues
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Holley 4180 Issues
Just did a light rebuild on my new to me carb. Just replacing the needle and seats and gaskets accordingly, it was stalling at stops unless I kept blipping the throttle.
After reinstalling I was adjusting the floats and I don't know if I messed it up, or if it already was, but the rear needle wouldn't tighten again. It seems that the threads in the bowl are stripped.
Are there any quick fixes for this, or am I limited to getting a new/replacement rear bowl?
After reinstalling I was adjusting the floats and I don't know if I messed it up, or if it already was, but the rear needle wouldn't tighten again. It seems that the threads in the bowl are stripped.
Are there any quick fixes for this, or am I limited to getting a new/replacement rear bowl?
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Why do people hide their locations, the advice I give is different cause you're in commiefornia, why do you make me look?
Yeah I stripped mine to, no other solution then to replace the bowl. Given that those bowls are unique that can be a tough thing to do, and given that your in CA you likely can't just put on a normal 4160 bowl.
Yeah I stripped mine to, no other solution then to replace the bowl. Given that those bowls are unique that can be a tough thing to do, and given that your in CA you likely can't just put on a normal 4160 bowl.
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Why do people hide their locations, the advice I give is different cause you're in commiefornia, why do you make me look?
Yeah I stripped mine to, no other solution then to replace the bowl. Given that those bowls are unique that can be a tough thing to do, and given that your in CA you likely can't just put on a normal 4160 bowl.
Yeah I stripped mine to, no other solution then to replace the bowl. Given that those bowls are unique that can be a tough thing to do, and given that your in CA you likely can't just put on a normal 4160 bowl.
I don't think that the 4160 bowls are the same shape anyways.
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I can't tell how big that hole is, but you might try to repair the threads. You can make a positive seal with a keen-sert, and thread sealant around the insert. Just use a sealant that is rated for gas. If the insert is larger that 50% of the wall thickness you have left I would replace the bowl though.
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A 4180 is just an emissions version of 4160, as far as the bowl is related the only difference is the stupid extra vent on the top. Toss on a 4160 bowl and skip the vent.
Or buy a better carb and sell that one, it's been a while but I think those still have a fair amount of value to people who want/need to keep their rig stock. On RockAuto they have a $115 core charge, that says something.
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Holley float adjusters are 3/8-24. (an odd pitch to find a thread repair insert)
4160 bowls have the same shape and depth, just no vent elbow.
primary and secondary are different, be sure to get the right one.
4160 bowls have the same shape and depth, just no vent elbow.
primary and secondary are different, be sure to get the right one.
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They're six bucks a pop on McMaster-Carr.
How's that going to work in the roof of a float bowl?
besides the insert you need the tap and the insert tool.
How much is the kit?
Say, $15 for the tool and $12 for a tap you're at $31 before shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLLEY-CARBU...-/162274278237
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I saw "CA" and assumed comiefornia. instead of commianadada.
A 4180 is just an emissions version of 4160, as far as the bowl is related the only difference is the stupid extra vent on the top. Toss on a 4160 bowl and skip the vent.
Or buy a better carb and sell that one, it's been a while but I think those still have a fair amount of value to people who want/need to keep their rig stock. On RockAuto they have a $115 core charge, that says something.
A 4180 is just an emissions version of 4160, as far as the bowl is related the only difference is the stupid extra vent on the top. Toss on a 4160 bowl and skip the vent.
Or buy a better carb and sell that one, it's been a while but I think those still have a fair amount of value to people who want/need to keep their rig stock. On RockAuto they have a $115 core charge, that says something.
Thanks for the info on the 4160, I was told that they were different. I was given a kit for one and the gaskets didn't line up, but the kit could've been wrong.
Installed length is a half inch.
How's that going to work in the roof of a float bowl?
besides the insert you need the tap and the insert tool.
How much is the kit?
Say, $15 for the tool and $12 for a tap you're at $31 before shipping
HOLLEY CARBURETOR SECONDARY FUEL BOWL MODEL 4160 SIDE HUNG FLOAT | eBay
How's that going to work in the roof of a float bowl?
besides the insert you need the tap and the insert tool.
How much is the kit?
Say, $15 for the tool and $12 for a tap you're at $31 before shipping
HOLLEY CARBURETOR SECONDARY FUEL BOWL MODEL 4160 SIDE HUNG FLOAT | eBay
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/134-105
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I'm looking to keep the truck stock right now. It's a one owner rig and was well maintained, I'm trying to see how long it will last with OEM(ish) parts. I also don't have the money to get a new unit.
Thanks for the info on the 4160, I was told that they were different. I was given a kit for one and the gaskets didn't line up, but the kit could've been wrong.
A replacement bowl from Holley looks to be about $50 before shipping.
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/134-105
Thanks for the info on the 4160, I was told that they were different. I was given a kit for one and the gaskets didn't line up, but the kit could've been wrong.
A replacement bowl from Holley looks to be about $50 before shipping.
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/134-105
My best piece of advice would be to make some phone calls to local carb shops, if there are still any around in your area. Tell them what you have and offer to trade. That you'll give them your 4180 plus IDK up to $100 for a 1850 in good condition. The 1850 is the "standard" Holley version of your stock carb, is a VERY popular carb, and has many advantages to you. Mostly two things, it doesn't have those idiotic bowl vents, and it is much more adjustable. If it has the gold finish it will look stock to anyone not in the know.
EDIT, on a deal like that make sure you keep/swap a few parts, keep your electric choke, and make sure you at least notate or keep your current, jets, metering plate, and power valve.
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Yes some gaskets differ from a "normal" 4160, but not the bowl gaskets.
My best piece of advice would be to make some phone calls to local carb shops, if there are still any around in your area. Tell them what you have and offer to trade. That you'll give them your 4180 plus IDK up to $100 for a 1850 in good condition. The 1850 is the "standard" Holley version of your stock carb, is a VERY popular carb, and has many advantages to you. Mostly two things, it doesn't have those idiotic bowl vents, and it is much more adjustable. If it has the gold finish it will look stock to anyone not in the know.
EDIT, on a deal like that make sure you keep/swap a few parts, keep your electric choke, and make sure you at least notate or keep your current, jets, metering plate, and power valve.
My best piece of advice would be to make some phone calls to local carb shops, if there are still any around in your area. Tell them what you have and offer to trade. That you'll give them your 4180 plus IDK up to $100 for a 1850 in good condition. The 1850 is the "standard" Holley version of your stock carb, is a VERY popular carb, and has many advantages to you. Mostly two things, it doesn't have those idiotic bowl vents, and it is much more adjustable. If it has the gold finish it will look stock to anyone not in the know.
EDIT, on a deal like that make sure you keep/swap a few parts, keep your electric choke, and make sure you at least notate or keep your current, jets, metering plate, and power valve.
Thanks for the information though. I appreciate it.
That was the kit that I ordered the second time and the one I used for the rebuild. The first kit I ordered was a 37-119 kit.
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Yes, primarily the choke.
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The 4160 secondary bowl on eBay is only up to $1.45 right now, with five hours left to go....
$7.50? shipping sounds like a USPS flat rate box.
Idk about duties or tariffs going to Canada.
Maybe you could look on eBay.CA? for one that wouldn't involve customs
Here's a 4180 secondary for $13.50 US 'buy it now' with Free Shipping.
It's in Wisconsin.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holley-4180-4-Barrel-Carburetor-Secondary-Side-Hung-Fuel-Float-Bowl-Ford-Mercury-/182083445423
That's a lot less than $50.
$7.50? shipping sounds like a USPS flat rate box.
Idk about duties or tariffs going to Canada.
Maybe you could look on eBay.CA? for one that wouldn't involve customs
Here's a 4180 secondary for $13.50 US 'buy it now' with Free Shipping.
It's in Wisconsin.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holley-4180-4-Barrel-Carburetor-Secondary-Side-Hung-Fuel-Float-Bowl-Ford-Mercury-/182083445423
That's a lot less than $50.