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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 02:01 PM
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Shift linkage broken in column?

Hi, I have a 77 F-100 SWB with a 2v 302 and c4. A couple days ago I shifted into reverse and lost function of the shifter. I also have a no longer alive 75 F-150 that had a similar situation where it ended up being the linkage retainer clip by the tranny. That isn't the case this time as I can pop the hood and manually move the linkage at the column and everything shifts perfectly. I have no experience with steering columns other than replacing a wheel or signal cam. Is there a shift tube that can be replaced? Do I need a new column? I haven't had time to investigate further due to life liberty and the pursuit of a happy wife. Any help is appreciated and I'll report with any further findings. Thanks!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Two possibilities, either the bridge in the shift collar has broken or the key on the shift tube has broken loose. Both can be replaced.
The most common is the bridge breaking.
This is whats inside the column
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 10:18 PM
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Likely the shift collar as Mike said, it's a cast metal we used to call "pot metal". I have seen NOS Ford ones on ebay, etc and Dorman makes one as well. I R&R ed mine, Mike and others helped a bunch with tips. This ain't got pics but maybe there is something that will help you with it.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...witch-tab.html
 
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Old Nov 12, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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Likely the shift collar as Mike said, it's a cast metal we used to call "pot metal". I have seen NOS Ford ones on ebay, etc and Dorman makes one as well.
I believe the shift socket (that's what Ford calls it) is still available from Ford. I located 74 in stock at various Ford dealers around the country.
The part number is D5TZ-7228-A
Edited to correct part number.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
... etc ....
The part number is D5TZ-7228-B
Yep .... and it was used on like a "kabillion" different applications / years!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
I believe the "transmission gearshift lever socket" is what Ford calls it.

The part number is D5TZ-7228-B / Obsolete
Mike, this is the 3 M/T shift socket (collar), replaced C0DZ-7228-B & D3TZ-7228-B = 1960/65 Falcon/Comet - 1961/77 F100/350 - 1966/77 Bronco.
D5TZ-7228-A (replaced C5TZ-7228-A; C9TZ-7228-A; D3TZ-7228-A) .. A/T Shift Socket (aka Collar) Kit-included D3TZ-7A110-A plastic pointer / Ford just obsoleted it.

Last MSRP: $64.38 - Dealer net cost: $42.92 / 269 available NOS ~ Largest quantity: VINTAGE PARTS in Beaver Dam WI has 215 = 877-846-8243.

Applications: 1965/77 F100/350 / 1973/77 Bronco.

1965/72 shift sockets had the pointer made as part of it. 1973/77's have a separate plastic pointer that slips onto the socket (collar).

Now you've gone and done it, many Ford parts guys call it a shift collar, as I have...in a gazillion posts here on FTE
 
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Old Nov 12, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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My mistake, thanks Bill.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 12:04 AM
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Well it took a while before I got time to inspect further. It's indeed a broken "collar". It looks like the shift lever snapped it after nearly 40 years. I guess I'll take this opportunity to replace the broken signal cam and the missing rubber piece from the steering coupler to take out the slop. My next question is do I have to cut the wiring in the column to get the collar off? I'm really not looking forward to that much tedious soldering. I appreciate all the help.

I'll be making a trip to the bone yard soon. Every time I go I always look at the 73-79s regardless of what I'm working on. I used to wonder why certain things were always missing from them. In hindsight now I know what's going to break on mine in the future.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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My next question is do I have to cut the wiring in the column to get the collar off?
No, you don't need to cut the wires.
Unplug the connector and look at it head on. You'll see little plastic tabs that locks each of the terminals in place. Take a seal pic, nails, paper clip, etc. Depress the tab and pull the wire out.
Just be sure, before you pull the wires out, make a map of the wire locations so you get them back in the right order.
 
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Originally Posted by 75BigBlock
Well it took a while before I got time to inspect further. It's indeed a broken "collar". It looks like the shift lever snapped it after nearly 40 years. I guess I'll take this opportunity to replace the broken signal cam ... etc ...
Mine's OEM cam was fine until just a couple years ago .... then it broke on one ear. After that, I changed it twice .... once being when I put the new wheel on 'cause it was broke again ..... using aftermarket (Dorman likely) repair kits. After the last one snapped .... I said "screw it" and pulled the wheel and clipped the other one to match and just put a "LOUD" flasher in place ..... so it "tic-toc-tic-toc-tic-toc"s loudly now as it's right behind the edge of the lower dash, turn signal is hard to forget ....

Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
No, you don't need to cut the wires.
... etc ... make a map of the wire locations so you get them back in the right order.
Like Mike said, and it is easy .... but first .... MAKE THE MAP!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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So I got everything off. It wasn't bad. I just made a drawing of the plug and made note of what color wire with what stripe went to each hole. I think the hardest part was getting the clip off that keeps the bearing in place. I have limited tools so it took a bit of time with a tiny flathead and some pliers. I was able to get a replacement from the wrecking yard for 5 bucks sans shift lever. I took my broken one to a nearby shop and they took out the shifter pin and swapped my lever free of charge in about 5 mins. I haven't put it on yet as I'm attempting to replace the "rag joint" on the column before I button everything up. I've hit a snag though. I took off the coupler on the steering box side by removing the pinch bolt. It looks like the two "bolts" that go through the joint are more like rivets. I can take pliers and spin them on the coupler but they don't back out. How do I remove those without cutting them off?
 
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Be sure you're grabbing the right ones.
There are two pins that don't come out, these are safety pins that make sure you can still steer if the coupling breaks. These are riveted. In the picture, these are the green rectangle.
Then there are two bolts that do unbolt, these are the ones that you remove. In the picture, they're in the orange rectangle.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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Yeah I have the two bolts off, but my rag joint replacement has 4 holes and I can't put those saftey pins through it without them being removed as far as I can tell. There's still chunks of the original stuck on them. I was confident I could do it quickly until I saw those.
 
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