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Old Nov 10, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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Ive had a sunroof on our suv for the past 10 years. Opening it is usually like "Hey I wonder it that thing still works?" Just don't use it or even think about it. Not knocking them I can see why people would like them just doesn't do anything for us.

Of course I forgot the vehicle had 3rd row seats also.
I'm sure you'll feel like something's missing if you didn't have one or two
 
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Old Nov 10, 2016 | 09:50 PM
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I actually haven't noticed any heat increase due to the moon roofs. I get most of the heat in through the windshield and side windows. The cover on my moonroof has not even been warm.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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I'm getting the moon roof on mine (much cooler). The sun roof would have just been to hot here in FL
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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I wouldnt expect them to leak when their this new, but if you plan on keeping your truck for 10+ yrs, whos to say they wont start having problems once they gets a little age on it. It may or may not, but i would be willing to bet that a truck without a sunroof, wouldnt be leaking.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 09:11 AM
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nO worries for leaks. My dealer just said to make sure the water drain rails stay clean. This is the rail the Sun Roof moves on. It serves two purposes, water drain and sun roof track
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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I too wish the sun roof is something I didn't have to get with the other options I wanted. Not really a fear of leaks.. just don't care for them. I don't know why. Just not a sunroof fan. Maybe I didn't like getting forced to get one with a package
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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I doubt they leak today, but back when they first came out they were often referred to as the 'FUNNEL'.

Anyhow glad you guys like them you are running it high company, first auto maker to offer them was on the Nash Rambler
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dh1200
I wouldnt expect them to leak when their this new, but if you plan on keeping your truck for 10+ yrs, whos to say they wont start having problems once they gets a little age on it. It may or may not, but i would be willing to bet that a truck without a sunroof, wouldnt be leaking.
That's a fallacy. I had a 1996 Explorer Limited with a power glass moonroof. Had it all the way to 2011. When we got rid of it, the sunroof was working perfectly and it never, ever leaked, and we never, ever cleaned it.

I think some folks are thinking of the awful old plastic pop-up sunroofs with rubber surrounds. Those were junk, these are not.

I think a leak it unlikely. I'd be willing to bet Ford tested these things against high pressure water from a car wash, from a powerwasher, even from a fire hose.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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That's a fallacy. I had a 1996 Explorer Limited with a power glass moonroof. Had it all the way to 2011. When we got rid of it, the sunroof was working perfectly and it never, ever leaked, and we never, ever cleaned it.

I think some folks are thinking of the awful old plastic pop-up sunroofs with rubber surrounds. Those were junk, these are not.

I think a leak it unlikely. I'd be willing to bet Ford tested these things against high pressure water from a car wash, from a powerwasher, even from a fire hose.
Give the guy a break Trove, he may have had to park his car outside under a tree and leaves and junk can gum stuff up. My cars that have had them never leaked, but, my sisters Olds Cutlass did and in fact it was an ongoing issue till she finally traded it in and it was parked in a garage and a garage at work, but when it rained it leaked.

By the time '96 rolled around sunroofs had been around and common in cars going back the 70's...how well I remember if you did not have a sunroof you took a big hit at trade in.

just google 'class action lawsuits sunroofs and be prepared for a shock, LOL.

Ford beginning in '73 when they first offered it drop shipped the cars to American Sunroof for the install and they had a good handle on it, but not all automakers did back in those days...
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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When you mention aftermarket sunroofs (sliders) and moon roofs (pop ups) I have a good friend who had a company installing them for dealers. Sunroofs often leak some but the drain tubes keep the water from entering the cabin. A plugged draintube and you will get water inside.

The principle reason the aftermarket disappeared is the insurance industry. There were a couple of major cases involving rollover accidents and the roof failed because the integrity had been compromised by cutting 3/4 of it out and replacing it with a clamped on chinchy metal frame and glass. Car manufacturers walked away from responsibility because hole was cut. The dealers would not touch them after that and the little guys couldn't afford the insurance. It even affected the trade value drastically.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Give the guy a break Trove...
Nothing against dh1200 whatsoever, its just that so many people on this forum don't want the 2017 Super Duty with a sunroof because they are so sure it is going to leak. It is not going to leak, and I'd hate to see people steered away from this great option out of incorrect notions...

What you say is true, the drain channels can get plugged up with leaf debris or whatever...but cleaning the drain tubes is pretty simple and painless. I had a 1992 Range Rover with a power glass moonroof, and it finally did leak a small amount of water inside when it was 21 years old. I opened the sunroof and used a MIG welding cable liner (flexible snake) to just run down the corner drain tubes. Within 5 minutes water was draining from the channels and no more leak inside.

Its possible a roof on a new Super Duty might leak, but it will be a rare exception and the repair should be pretty straightforward. The "seals" around the glass are simply designed to divert most of the water away while some will still filter in past the seal and drain away from one of the four corners in the designated drain channels.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Nothing against dh1200 whatsoever, its just that so many people on this forum don't want the 2017 Super Duty with a sunroof because they are so sure it is going to leak. It is not going to leak, and I'd hate to see people steered away from this great option out of incorrect notions...

What you say is true, the drain channels can get plugged up with leaf debris or whatever...but cleaning the drain tubes is pretty simple and painless. I had a 1992 Range Rover with a power glass moonroof, and it finally did leak a small amount of water inside when it was 21 years old. I opened the sunroof and used a MIG welding cable liner (flexible snake) to just run down the corner drain tubes. Within 5 minutes water was draining from the channels and no more leak inside.

Its possible a roof on a new Super Duty might leak, but it will be a rare exception and the repair should be pretty straightforward. The "seals" around the glass are simply designed to divert most of the water away while some will still filter in past the seal and drain away from one of the four corners in the designated drain channels.
Problem is people in the F150 forum are complaining even with the 2016 MY. Last time I checked people said they were starting to have mold issues in places with wet climates. I have no doubt that these people are the exception but I don't think there's anything wrong with people talking about the risks with a sunroof/moonroof.

I personally don't like the idea of gutters essentially inside the cabin, particularly when some people are complaining about mold in their less than 1 year old $50K truck.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 01:10 PM
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I personally don't like the idea of gutters essentially inside the cabin, particularly when some people are complaining about mold in their less than 1 year old $50K truck.
Every single vehicle equipped with a power moonroof has gutters / rain channels as you describe.

That's just how they're made.

If its any consolation, our 2010 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost has the full panoramic moonroof and has never leaked since new and there is no mold smell inside.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
Every single vehicle equipped with a power moonroof has gutters / rain channels as you describe.

That's just how they're made.

If its any consolation, our 2010 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost has the full panoramic moonroof and has never leaked since new and there is no mold smell inside.
I've had several vehicles with a moonroof, though none were Ford, and none of them leaked like what has been described as "normal" by Ford. The problems I've been seeing with the F150/Super Duty cab are the dual pane moonroof. Almost all the leaking has been at the joint between the two panes of glass.

Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKF5...ature=youtu.be

People with "leaks" like that are being told it is normal and I do believe it is by design. It just isn't a design I am comfortable with.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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But no water is leaking into the vehicle in that video. The water drain channels are lower than the roof because when the front portion is opened it has to drop down to clear the rear section. Yet at the same time, the rear glass must have drain channels too. So although some people might be alarmed by this, I am not.
 
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