Axracer
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 676
Likes: 8
From: Ontario
That is my point. This is no place for personal attacks. It doesn't matter to me that trolling may be acceptable on many forums; that doesn't make it right.
And I have led a sheltered life, in that I either don't join or I leave forums where personal attacks are an accepted way of life. I just don't have the time nor the energy for it. I guess that I have been spoiled by the Moderators over at OWWM.org (Old Woodworking Machines). They tolerate nothing. The attacks that I have seen here would have resulted in permanent banishment over there.
Different forums, different rules. I understand that. However, the anonymity of the web tends to bring out the worst in some folks. To me, this type of behavior should be called out by the other members if the Moderators let it go.
I'm here to learn and share my experiences, not witness pissing matches.
We should all be adult enough to know how to disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling. I can disagree with you and still accept the fact that you may insist that you are right. I can present evidence proving you wrong and still accept that you think that you are right. At some point, I will come to the understanding that your mind is made up, and there is no changing it. So I can either start attacking you personally or I can agree to disagree. Although it may be less entertaining to some readers, I would agree to disagree and let it go.
I'm up to $.05.
John
And I have led a sheltered life, in that I either don't join or I leave forums where personal attacks are an accepted way of life. I just don't have the time nor the energy for it. I guess that I have been spoiled by the Moderators over at OWWM.org (Old Woodworking Machines). They tolerate nothing. The attacks that I have seen here would have resulted in permanent banishment over there.
Different forums, different rules. I understand that. However, the anonymity of the web tends to bring out the worst in some folks. To me, this type of behavior should be called out by the other members if the Moderators let it go.
I'm here to learn and share my experiences, not witness pissing matches.
We should all be adult enough to know how to disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling. I can disagree with you and still accept the fact that you may insist that you are right. I can present evidence proving you wrong and still accept that you think that you are right. At some point, I will come to the understanding that your mind is made up, and there is no changing it. So I can either start attacking you personally or I can agree to disagree. Although it may be less entertaining to some readers, I would agree to disagree and let it go.
I'm up to $.05.
John
Had to at least get you up to a nickel John, nothing is sold for less than that now a days, even penny candies cost a nickel now.
Hope you guys all get to enjoy the old trucks roaming around, have an awesome one!
Logistics Pro
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3,793
Likes: 19
From: Austin
Hey John
5 cents Canadian isn't what it used to be... You may need to bump
it up to ten cents or so. I totally agree with you. I've backed up a bit
on my participation here .... the tone was trending negative. Hoping for a more
positive approach going forward..
I also agree with Dave that AX had a knack for showing minimal tact in communicating
at times .... leading some members to take on the task of knocking his posts.
I've been enjoying watching some of our younger members show their creativity in building their trucks.
"Gick" who graduated from college & moved to Michigan to continue his build has been especially uplifting.
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
5 cents Canadian isn't what it used to be... You may need to bump
it up to ten cents or so. I totally agree with you. I've backed up a bit
on my participation here .... the tone was trending negative. Hoping for a more
positive approach going forward..
I also agree with Dave that AX had a knack for showing minimal tact in communicating
at times .... leading some members to take on the task of knocking his posts.
I've been enjoying watching some of our younger members show their creativity in building their trucks.
"Gick" who graduated from college & moved to Michigan to continue his build has been especially uplifting.
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 535
Likes: 42
From: Scotland
That is my point. This is no place for personal attacks. It doesn't matter to me that trolling may be acceptable on many forums; that doesn't make it right.
And I have led a sheltered life, in that I either don't join or I leave forums where personal attacks are an accepted way of life. I just don't have the time nor the energy for it. I guess that I have been spoiled by the Moderators over at OWWM.org (Old Woodworking Machines). They tolerate nothing. The attacks that I have seen here would have resulted in permanent banishment over there.
Different forums, different rules. I understand that. However, the anonymity of the web tends to bring out the worst in some folks. To me, this type of behavior should be called out by the other members if the Moderators let it go.
I'm here to learn and share my experiences, not witness pissing matches.
We should all be adult enough to know how to disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling. I can disagree with you and still accept the fact that you may insist that you are right. I can present evidence proving you wrong and still accept that you think that you are right. At some point, I will come to the understanding that your mind is made up, and there is no changing it. So I can either start attacking you personally or I can agree to disagree. Although it may be less entertaining to some readers, I would agree to disagree and let it go.
I'm up to $.05.
John
And I have led a sheltered life, in that I either don't join or I leave forums where personal attacks are an accepted way of life. I just don't have the time nor the energy for it. I guess that I have been spoiled by the Moderators over at OWWM.org (Old Woodworking Machines). They tolerate nothing. The attacks that I have seen here would have resulted in permanent banishment over there.
Different forums, different rules. I understand that. However, the anonymity of the web tends to bring out the worst in some folks. To me, this type of behavior should be called out by the other members if the Moderators let it go.
I'm here to learn and share my experiences, not witness pissing matches.
We should all be adult enough to know how to disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling. I can disagree with you and still accept the fact that you may insist that you are right. I can present evidence proving you wrong and still accept that you think that you are right. At some point, I will come to the understanding that your mind is made up, and there is no changing it. So I can either start attacking you personally or I can agree to disagree. Although it may be less entertaining to some readers, I would agree to disagree and let it go.
I'm up to $.05.
John
John,
Ax was not averse to upsetting people. Personally I saw nothing wrong in what was said or any need for moderation in the link posted. If you can dish it out you need to be able to take it. I really have not witnessed anything but mutual respect and help for posters on this forum in the vast majority of cases. If the rest of the world got along as well we'd be doing alright.
FTE fan
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,674
Likes: 11
From: paradise, northern calif.
Hi all, if I may make a suggestion. IMPO I think everyone that wanted to, has had a chance to express there feelings on this matter. And at this point I think there is little to gain that is positive by continuing. I'm not a Moderator and am not in charge of anything, but as a member of this great family,(just one voice in thousands) I personally will be very happy when this thread comes to its end and is laid to rest.
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
AX is not a member of the two 'other' Ford truck sites I'm a member of.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,532
Likes: 29
From: northeast Ga
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 4
From: Southern SC.
Can I just say the advice I received from AX was appreciated. I never had a problem with his attitude as others did. It's a shame he did what he did at times, it's a shame others did what they did. Two wrongs don't make a right. This forum has always had more rights than wrongs and the moderators have always done their best to stop the wrongs. It's time for that to happen as suggested by Jimmy. If a fellow FTE'r as compassionate as he is request it to be closed I vote it should be done. My $2 worth (as 2 cents just doesn't go far enough to today). Have fun
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
Both are basically "chit-chat" sites with next to no info for 1948/56's. I sent DR Smith an email...
