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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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Excursion Coil Spring conversion Sway bar issue

Just about done with installing 2010 Superduty front suspension in my Ex. For some reason the sway bay hits the Coil spring and I can't bolt in the end links to the sway bar. Is 2010 different then 2005?? I could maybe modify the the front mount to move it forward but I am not sure there is enough space, plus it's perfectly centered right now. Any ideas? Doesn't seem to much room to slide the axle back either.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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The '08+ front frame is different because of the new front end design. The front frame is lower (compare tow hook locations), no need for the crash bar from the earlier years. You will need to be creative, please post what you find, it is always great to see solutions to rare problems!!
 
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 06:07 PM
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The '08+ front frame is different because of the new front end design. The front frame is lower (compare tow hook locations), no need for the crash bar from the earlier years. You will need to be creative, please post what you find, it is always great to see solutions to rare problems!!
Yea I figured a frame difference could be the problem. I might be able to shave the end of the sway bar and slot the mounting bracket. This could move the bushing off center. Switching to a 05 bar might be the answer . I'll have to check diameter differences
 
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 06:29 PM
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If you google, "2008 f250 front end" you'll some other folks who had tried this. Shortening tie rods and some other problems/solutions discussed too.
Having geometry problems at highway speeds when you hit a bump could end badly, be careful.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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If you google, "2008 f250 front end" you'll some other folks who had tried this. Shortening tie rods and some other problems/solutions discussed too.
Having geometry problems at highway speeds when you hit a bump could end badly, be careful.
That search doesn't turn up anything other then front clip. Have any links?
 
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99-07 to 2008 front end? - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com
There are a few others with bits-and-tidbits mixed in to the "fender conversion" threads... in other searches..
It's "easier" to search than do this conversion... based on what I see.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 06:12 AM
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They are different, you need to use 2005 sway bar.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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What's needed for the coil spring swap?
 
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I have an 05 bar and end links on the way. Seems like it should fix it
 
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What's needed for the coil spring swap?
Depends what you mean, the '05+ SuperDuty with coil springs have 3" longer axles, larger brakes, wheels, and suspension.

So, to use the new bigger brakes, Ford changed to 17" (or larger) wheels in 05. The axles are also slightly longer (3 inches) so the backspacing on the wheels changed as well. So, it's mostly swapping components (with a few holes to drill/enlarge).

This is why you can't w/o using a spacer put '05+ wheels on the 99-04 SD or 00-05 Excursion.

This is 1 of the best write-ups with tons of pics on flickr
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Are you also swapping to the 05 Super Duty steering box? That is the write up I used as a guide.
 
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Are you also swapping to the 05 Super Duty steering box? That is the write up I used as a guide.
No. I reamed out the stock pitman arm. I had a brand new redhead box and didn't want to change. No benefit anyway
 
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Was told by several that without the newer box the turning radius would not improve.
It is drastically improved. I could be wrong cause I did it all at once, just want to make sure you take full advantage of conversion.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Was told by several that without the newer box the turning radius would not improve.
It is drastically improved. I could be wrong cause I did it all at once, just want to make sure you take full advantage of conversion.
Yea I read the same. I talked to Redhead and they said the ratio is the same from lock to lock on the 05-07 boxes vs the 99-04. Just beefier components. My guess the turn radius comes from the axle and steering linkage setup. Seems more logical
 
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If the Pittman arm was longer, then, it would turn the wheels further, hence reducing turning radius.
The '05 should turn the wheels more than prior years, since no leaf springs are in the way.
 
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