Hi,
I have a 1978 F100 4x4 cleveland V8 351.

I see adverts for 3 core radiators with fan shrouds.

How many cores did the original 78 F100's come with?

It is not yet really hot here yet. However my fan and raidator setup is just keeping off the red. I have bought a mrchanical temperature sensor. However I need to fit it.

I was wondering how the three cores go.

Thanks,

 

Not positive but Im sure the yours came with a 3 core radiator factory. Unless you are towing heavy all the time or a serious off roader (4 core), a replacement 3 core should do you just fine. Aluminum if you want shiny and lighter. Get a good electric fan while your in there if you want to. Plenty of options that work that aren't expensive.

 

No such thing as a 1978 F100 with 4WD, 1976 was the last year. So, it's either an F150 or a conversion, or it's not a 1978.

No 351C's were factory installed in F100/350's, what size was the original engine? If you don't know, post the VIN

Does your 1978 have round or rectangular headlamps? I need to know this, because 1973/78 with round headlamps, there are TWO possible radiator supports, TWO possible fan shrouds.

 

Hi, maybe different to US. But it is a 78.
It was built in Australia, Broadmeadows.
Thanks,

 

You should have said this in your first post.

 

On my '78 with 400, 2 core was standard and 3 core "extra cooling".

Also, not all cores are created equal. Cores on some of the re-pop radiators are pretty thin and cooling performance suffers.

I would suggest 3 core and a good one since I guess it gets hot where you are. If Champion brand radiators are available that would be a good choice and reasonable cost. They will take a stock fan shroud if you have or can get one.

 

Yes it is different than North America. In North America 1974 was the last year for the Cleveland where it was then replaced with the 351M (a short stroke 400) The 351C soldiered on till 1982 in Australia.(lucky buggers)

Australia never got the 400 or the 351M

 

351M installed in Ford/Merc Passenger Cars in 1975, in F100/350's in 1977, in Bronco's in 1978.

In the US/Canada, 351C's were only installed in 1970/74 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars & Ranchero's.

 

The 351M carried on till 1982 In Canada in the Trucks and the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis. Not sure what the last year for it was in the U.S.

I have not seen a 351M power Panther (Crown Vic Grand Marquis) for along time the last one I seen was in the mid 90's. IIRC the cars with the towing package got the 351M.

 

No 1979 or later LTD (name changed to Crown Victoria in 1983) or Grand Marquis came with a 351M. These cars were downsized in 1979, were only available with 302 & 351W thru the early 1990's.

1978 was the last year LTD/Grand Marquis came with 351M/400. LTD II (not an LTD!) available with the 351M: 1977/79. No car after 1979 available with 351M/400.

Some 1978 Lincoln Town Car/Mark V came with 460's, some came with 400's, all 1979 Lincoln's came with 400's. Lincoln/Mark downsized in 1980, only available with 302 & 351W

Canada makes no difference. Cars assembled in Canada were sold in both the US & Canada.

 

Sorry Bill your US books are omitting this Model. You have to realize Canada did not have harmonized emissions with the US till the 92 Model year. Just like how we got 351W in non police spec panthers till 86. And installs with the 351M with no Cats or smog pumps in the late 70's in the cars.

The 351M was offered in the Panther till I believe 82 (might have been 81 or 80)
I know this for Fact as I bought one new in 80 a grand marquis wagon with trailer tow and the 351M and C6. They were not common even here and let me tell ya I had this argument with more than one parts person at Ford (and after market suppliers) till I showed them the car in the parking lot and they pulled up the engine calibration on the fiche. Actually the engine is still sitting out at the acreage. By the late 80's getting parts was royal PIA as it was on no ones system. The car was retired when I got the 92 GM in 1991. That was another cluster as it had the AOD not the AODE and was early production to boot (Dec 90) so there were few bits on it that did not exactly show up properly that were very early changeovers. I have seen exactly 3 other 351M powered panthers one on the road and 2 in the wreckers.

 

1980/89 Ford L/M Passenger Car Parts Catalog used in the US & Canada. There is no 351M engine listed.

Engine section goes from 302 to 351W

 

Ya I know. Now you know my pain when it came to getting parts. I just gave up most of the time and quoted a 78 LTD 99.9% of the time the book is right but every now and then it throws a brick at you. I'm not sure what the deal was with installing the M engines in the Panther, not sure what the deal was at St Thomas or if Ford Canada had a bunch of M engines they needed to get rid of. All the accessories and bracketing was the same as the 78 car installs no serpentine belts like the small blocks all V belts. Really I'm not sure if there was anything power train wise that was not already in the parts bin none of the other cars I seen nor mine had A/C. Good thing I never needed a PS hose or I would have been hooped.