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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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Column shift to floor conversion...

I've seen a couple of the other threads asking about converting the column shift to floor shift, but those seemed to revolve around just changing the shift mechanism. I am wondering if I could replace the transmission, a Borg-Warner w/OD and column shift, with a 4 or 5 speed transmission to both gain a floor shift and more gears than the 3 speed.

Would anyone be able to offer advise on what 4 or 5 speed transmission would be an easy drop in replacement that would hook to the original 390 engine? I'm assuming that the clutch pedal linkage and such wouldn't need to be modded, just redirected to the new transmission?

Thanks in advance for any assistance offered.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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I've never seen a column shifter with more than 2 linkages. I don't think you can squeeze more than 2 linkages into the steering column without fabricating and some magic. All 4 and 5 speed tranys will work you just may need an adapter to make it bolt up. I'm sure there are plenty of FTE persons around that have done this and can offer more specific details.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 03:42 PM
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I apologize; I think I wasn't clear. I'm hoping to switch from a column to floor shift by changing the transmission to a 4 or 5 speed, and was wondering how simple this would be, and what transmission options might keep it simple.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Should be very doable. Ford 4 speed trans no OD will have same final drive as your 3 speed. The difference will be 1st to 2nd. Many will have a granny gear used for pulling something heave out of the hole.(Not much speed) 2nd gear would be similar to your 1st gear. A 5 speed OD trans like a tremec tk5 may bolt in, just have to carve a hole in the floor for the shifter.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Awesome...thank you very much!
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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The granny gear 4 speeds will bolt right up to the FE block. If they were bolted to one originally. Warner T18's shift pattern is reverse to the right and up. New process 435's pattern is reverse over to the right and down. Depending on what wheelbase and rear end you have the driveshaft may even be the same. But as Brian said, no overdrive. HioSilver put a Tremec TKO-500 5 speed in his rig. Orich and others put a Dodge NV4500 5 speed in theirs.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 08:33 PM
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Au contraire, Jeff. I believe that the T-18 reverse pattern changed in 77, as I think that my dad's 77 150 was down and my 79 260's T-18 is down for sure.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Au contraire, Jeff. I believe that the T-18 reverse pattern changed in 77, as I think that my dad's 77 150 was down and my 79 260's T-18 is down for sure.
This is true Rich. But I was talking about back in the Bumpside era. Prolly good that you posted this though.
 
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