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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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Rear brake questions

Hey guys, so im in the process of installing the drum brake and cant figure out how or where this small spring goes...1956 f250


Where does this spring go and any tips on installing it <br/>
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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Okay, I'll stick my neck out here and comment on a vehicle I know very little about. But considering over 30 other people have viewed your question without a reply, I'd bet they're also scratching their head while looking at your picture. The spring is the typical adjusting screw spring, BUT your shoes don't look right to me. Where did you buy the brake shoes themselves? They look like they're made for self-adjusting brakes that weren't introduced until several years later. In other words, the little holes out on the edge to accommodate that spring are missing on your shoes.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Looks like it goes to the adjusters if you have them and a brake tool for springs would be a knuckle saver.I am in the process of rebuilding a 70's nine inch and am taking plenty of pic's scroll to the top and search brake drums and you should find a good picture. It depends also on what year you have. Good Luck
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by newguy399
Hey guys, so im in the process of installing the drum brake and cant figure out how or where this small spring goes...1956 f250


Where does this spring go and any tips on installing it
Caption: D = F250 / J = P350 / JL(H) = P500 / Y = F350.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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According to Numberdummy's diagram, it doesn't appear that is the correct spring. But heck, what do I know.........
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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According to Numberdummy's diagram, it doesn't appear that is the correct spring. But heck, what do I know.........
I agree . . . If that is the only spring you have left from a set of new springs I would say they gave you the wrong spring for the lower part of the shoes.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 10:00 AM
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That spring is for some other system, IMO.

Doc, a lot of shoes are made so they will work on either manual or self-adjusting systems.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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This spring is probably an auto parts store universal "fitz-all" for the original 1D-2049-A .. Front/Rear Brake Adjusting Screw Spring (4 51/64" long) / Obsolete...no one has any.

Applications: 1951/52 F2 / 1953/65 F250 / 1966 F250 with 12 1/8" x 2" drum brakes.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Actually thats the spring that lmc sent me it called an adjuster spring. Its seams like its to small..i have a kit that a bought from napa but its a for a 1966. I figured all that parts book that i look at the kit says its for a 53-66
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by newguy399
Actually thats the spring that lmc sent me it called an adjuster spring. Its seems like it's too small. I have a kit that I bought from napa but its a for a 1966.

I figured all that parts book that i look at the kit says its for a 53-66.
1966 F250: TWO different sizes of brake shoes, TWO different types of brake shoe adjuster screws and brake shoe adjuster springs. The brake shoe return springs are also different.

1D-2049-A .. Spring-Brake Shoe Adjuster: 1951/52 F2; 1953/65 F250; 1966 F250 with 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear brakes (same applications in post #8).

C6TZ-2049-A .. Spring-Brake Shoe Adjuster: 1966 F250 with 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear brakes.

12" x 2 1/2" brakes introduced in 1966 F250: Standard equipment on Camper Specials and with 7,500 lbs. GVWR

1966 F250's with 12" x 2 1/2" brakes were the first to offer self adjusters. Self adjusters weren't available in F250's with 12 1/8" x 2" brakes until 1967.

Be aware that LMC's catalog applications are rife with errors and omissions!
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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Okay, I'll stick my neck out here and comment on a vehicle I know very little about. But considering over 30 other people have viewed your question without a reply, I'd bet they're also scratching their head while looking at your picture. The spring is the typical adjusting screw spring, BUT your shoes don't look right to me. Where did you buy the brake shoes themselves? They look like they're made for self-adjusting brakes that weren't introduced until several years later. In other words, the little holes out on the edge to accommodate that spring are missing on your shoes.
I got everything from lmc the shoes,the wheel cylinder link,the springs that go top and the adjusting spring, it was all for a 1956 f250...
 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by newguy399
I got everything from lmc the shoes,the wheel cylinder link,the springs that go top and the adjusting spring, it was all for a 1956 f250...
I'd consider adding self adjusters. I'm pretty sure the self adjusted kits come with a different spring. In another life I owned a brake & Frontend Alignment shop and got those Springs in kits all the time. You can MAKE them work but you'll still have to manually adjust the brakes every several thousand miles. Wasn't a big deal when tires only lasted 15 to 20 thousand miles, oil changes were every couple of thousand miles and tune ups were required every 5 thousand miles. Not like cars today.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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Yep, that spring looks to small. Here is a picture of my brakes. Hope it helps.

 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Here is a closeup of mine.
I can't imagine you could get that little one hooked in the holes.

 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 10:16 PM
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Here is a closeup of mine.
I can't imagine you could get that little one hooked in the holes.

Thanks for all the help..i figured it out i was able to find the old adjusting springs and was able to use them....fyi I recently purchased a brake spring tool well worth the 8.00

 
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