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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Highjumper
Of course not. But the fuel capacity rating (per the manual) is when the gauge reads empty to full. The extra reserve is not calculated into the fuel capacity rating. So a 34 gallon rated tank should actually be larger than 34 gallons. Also, that is why I posed the two options: 1) the software is programmed for a 29 gallon tank, or 2) the tank is in fact 29 gallons. It could be either. One way or another, Ford made a mistake. This will be my first warranty issue.
Please report back when you get it checked but I think you will find there is a huge reserve left after reading empty and it is not in addition to the published size of the tank. But I could be mistaken. I already assume that I will be having the fuel level recalibrated to 0 when the tank is actually mty and not just a designers fantasy of how to idiotproof the fuel gauge/usage.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
Please report back when you get it checked but I think you will find there is a huge reserve left after reading empty and it is not in addition to the published size of the tank. But I could be mistaken. I already assume that I will be having the fuel level recalibrated to 0 when the tank is actually mty and not just a designers fantasy of how to idiotproof the fuel gauge/usage.
Will do. Notice that the fuel was just under 28 gallons, which indicates another 1 gallon reserve. My suspicion is that I have a 34 gallon tank, but when they installed the software they selected the 29 gallon tank option. This should be an easy recalibration (just like they do when you install an aftermarket tank). At least I hope so. Maybe if they installed the wrong tank I can convince them to install the 48 gallon tank instead under warranty I suspect it doesn't fit though.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Highjumper
Will do. Notice that the fuel was just under 28 gallons, which indicates another 1 gallon reserve. My suspicion is that I have a 34 gallon tank, but when they installed the software they selected the 29 gallon tank option. This should be an easy recalibration (just like they do when you install an aftermarket tank). At least I hope so. Maybe if they installed the wrong tank I can convince them to install the 48 gallon tank instead under warranty I suspect it doesn't fit though.
I am pretty sure the 48 will not fit with the SB. You would have to go to a Titan tank which is quite a bit deeper and hangs down farther. I ordered a LB and it still only has the 34 gallon which I dislike before it even comes. My '01 has a 39 gallon but then again no cow pee tank. I am hoping that Titan will develop a 50 gallon for the SC LB but I will have to wait for that...last talk with them said it would be a while before they get around to investigating it. Nice truck you have....enjoy!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Highjumper
Will do. Notice that the fuel was just under 28 gallons, which indicates another 1 gallon reserve. My suspicion is that I have a 34 gallon tank, but when they installed the software they selected the 29 gallon tank option. This should be an easy recalibration (just like they do when you install an aftermarket tank). At least I hope so. Maybe if they installed the wrong tank I can convince them to install the 48 gallon tank instead under warranty I suspect it doesn't fit though.

I agree something's off, but I'm hoping its not the tank. So....I grabbed the creeper and went out in the garage. My first intent was to measure up the tank and see if I could get close enough to figure the capacity via math. However, in looking I found the part number and more importantly a stamp with "34" in it (See pictures). I figure the part number will tell us for sure, but at the very least, the stamp is a good sign. Is there anybody on the forum that could run the part number to see for sure?


Also...I've been thinking this whole time...if the tank is indeed the wrong one.....what if this is one of the production delays? Its just a thought, but the fuel tanks are all new so maybe.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Force74
I agree something's off, but I'm hoping its not the tank. So....I grabbed the creeper and went out in the garage. My first intent was to measure up the tank and see if I could get close enough to figure the capacity via math. However, in looking I found the part number and more importantly a stamp with "34" in it (See pictures). I figure the part number will tell us for sure, but at the very least, the stamp is a good sign. Is there anybody on the forum that could run the part number to see for sure?
Thanks for the detective work. I am going to crawl under mine this evening to confirm the same stampings on my tank and will post the results. I intend to go to a dealer this weekend to see about a recalibration.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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These trucks must hold alot of fuel in the lines and pump. I ran mine down to 5 miles to empty yesterday then was only able to pump 42 gallons in. I have the 48 gallon since i have long bed. Sure makes for a long stand at the pump when u have to fill her up.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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I am telling you guys all the newer vehicles are programed to 0 miles to empty when there is indeed 4-6 gallons left in the tank. It becomes a guessing game after you reach "0". Reprogramming is the answer. It is not a mistake on FoMoCo's part. If you live by the gauge even an idiot will not run out of fuel.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
I am telling you guys all the newer vehicles are programed to 0 miles to empty when there is indeed 4-6 gallons left in the tank. It becomes a guessing game after you reach "0". Reprogramming is the answer. It is not a mistake on FoMoCo's part. If you live by the gauge even an idiot will not run out of fuel.

I think you are correct Rob. After you fill up, the current MPG multiplied times 34 distance to empty math seems to always work out.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
I am telling you guys all the newer vehicles are programed to 0 miles to empty when there is indeed 4-6 gallons left in the tank. It becomes a guessing game after you reach "0". Reprogramming is the answer. It is not a mistake on FoMoCo's part. If you live by the gauge even an idiot will not run out of fuel.
Do you just have the dealer reprogram the gauge?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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Do you just have the dealer reprogram the gauge?
That would be the way of the past. With the new generation of engineers there might be an edict that prohibits having accurate fuel gauges.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
That would be the way of the past. With the new generation of engineers there might be an edict that prohibits having accurate fuel gauges.
Here I always assumed they were off because the float bottomed out. If it's trivial to get the gauge corrected, I'd definitely choose to do it. I intentionally let mine run low (ended up at 11 miles remaining) to get an idea of how accurate it was being... I put a bit over 24 gallons in. I'd like to be a little closer to empty before it bitches at me for not feeding it.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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I assume the 34 in my tank is confirmation also.

 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:09 AM
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Also...another test might be to crawl under a '16 with the 29 gallon and physically measure the tank if possible....and do the same with the 34....just to see the difference and make sure. Or see how the 29 is stamped.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Maybe the extra fuel is used to cool the pump? I also have been filling up my 34g tank showing empty, but around 25gallons to fill.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Highjumper
Will do. Notice that the fuel was just under 28 gallons, which indicates another 1 gallon reserve. My suspicion is that I have a 34 gallon tank, but when they installed the software they selected the 29 gallon tank option. This should be an easy recalibration (just like they do when you install an aftermarket tank). At least I hope so. Maybe if they installed the wrong tank I can convince them to install the 48 gallon tank instead under warranty I suspect it doesn't fit though.
I thought the LB crew was supposed to have the 48 gallon tank at least thats what I have read. Can the forscan be used to recalibrate?
 
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