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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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get rid of the additive, step up your water draining, change where you get your fuel and change your filters sooner.


You have bad fuel.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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I agree with OP that the filter system should be effective. Even worse that an warrantee/extended warrantee is useless.


I don't understand why this particular filtration system is ineffective for 'bad fuel'. That's its only job to do.


Given this, I would think there would be an aftermarket filtration system available and popular, to prevent a $10,000 bill. Even if it was a few grand. Don't see any post here about them.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by smoky_diesel
I agree with OP that the filter system should be effective. Even worse that an warrantee/extended warrantee is useless.


I don't understand why this particular filtration system is ineffective for 'bad fuel'. That's its only job to do.


Given this, I would think there would be an aftermarket filtration system available and popular, to prevent a $10,000 bill. Even if it was a few grand. Don't see any post here about them.
If I was going to keep it it would have an auxiliary filter that would eliminate this from ever happening again. There are some being used & not but about $600.

As far as I have bad fuel I believe I stated that to start with. So if others want to bury their heads in the sand & say they only buy good fuel, change filters frequently & drain water once a week thinking it's not gonna happen to them, your only fooling yourself. I got my bad fuel from a newer high traffic name brand station & my system was contaminated within a few hours. Good luck.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FUZZYDP
If I was going to keep it it would have an auxiliary filter that would eliminate this from ever happening again. There are some being used & not but about $600.

As far as I have bad fuel I believe I stated that to start with. So if others want to bury their heads in the sand & say they only buy good fuel, change filters frequently & drain water once a week thinking it's not gonna happen to them, your only fooling yourself. I got my bad fuel from a newer high traffic name brand station & my system was contaminated within a few hours. Good luck.

I agree completely with you. I have no idea why everyone is saying to drain your water, stop using additives, ect. You're not contaminated with water for pete's sake. If rust particles got past your new filters, then the blame certainly lies with a poorly designed filtration system. I'm be mighty pissed as well...
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure any newer Diesel pickup would have suffered the same fate. Actually today I was just at a client of mine who switched his entire fleet from Super Dutys to Silverados abput 2 years because of issues with his 2008-2012 Ford Fleet. He told me today that his Silverados all experience the same types of issues as his fords. He said even the RAMs sent immune. He is going all Gas moving forward. I've been pleased with my truck so I am content and happy.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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I'm curious as to what you'all would have Ford do. They are using the same high pressure pump as many other competitors. They are using about the best filters available. You can buy some with more capacity to hold water, but the ability to filter water out is no different.

What filter do you think would eliminate this problem? Mentioning JD farm equipment and old 7.3L isn't really relevant to the discussion, no way the EPA will let those on the road, they are a whole different thing.

If there is filtration technology that will eliminate this problem, please point it out. The aftermarket filters available for the 6.7L will trap a bit more water before getting overloaded, but if you get some bad fuel it will probably overload those too. They are an incremental improvement, not a cure.

Everybody is saying "Ford should have fixed this" yet GM and RAM haven't either, nor is there a cheap or expensive aftermarket system that "fixes" it. It appears to be a limitation of this generation of technology. Perhaps Ford should just quit selling diesels, or those having trouble with them quit buying them.

Specifically, what filters should Ford have put on these trucks that would guarantee only clean fuel reached the pump? I want to know, 'cause I will put one on. But I doubt it exists.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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anything 2008 and up can suffer due to the hpfp.


Only thing you can do is to try to mitigate the issue as best you can. I have drained daily sometimes just to be sure.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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I'm curious as to what you'all would have Ford do. They are using the same high pressure pump as many other competitors. They are using about the best filters available. You can buy some with more capacity to hold water, but the ability to filter water out is no different.

What filter do you think would eliminate this problem? Mentioning JD farm equipment and old 7.3L isn't really relevant to the discussion, no way the EPA will let those on the road, they are a whole different thing.

If there is filtration technology that will eliminate this problem, please point it out. The aftermarket filters available for the 6.7L will trap a bit more water before getting overloaded, but if you get some bad fuel it will probably overload those too. They are an incremental improvement, not a cure.

Everybody is saying "Ford should have fixed this" yet GM and RAM haven't either, nor is there a cheap or expensive aftermarket system that "fixes" it. It appears to be a limitation of this generation of technology. Perhaps Ford should just quit selling diesels, or those having trouble with them quit buying them.

Specifically, what filters should Ford have put on these trucks that would guarantee only clean fuel reached the pump? I want to know, 'cause I will put one on. But I doubt it exists.
I have no idea. It's not my job to design or install filters that work.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:34 PM
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anything 2008 and up can suffer due to the hpfp.


Only thing you can do is to try to mitigate the issue as best you can. I have drained daily sometimes just to be sure.
Scott, water isn't the issue so draining would do nothing to prevent the OP's issue. (At least from how the original post was written?) Water would have been caught and thrown a WIF. Rust is a different story. By the by, I've never drained mine since 2012.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:54 PM
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If I understand it correctly the filter doesn't let rust pass. The rust comes from the water in fuel and the rust will be in the fuel rails and hpop already. As stated before some additives with emulsifier lets water through. That's the problem.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:58 PM
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How could you have water in the fuel without throwing a WIF? The emulsifier would prevent it from settling in the bowl and throwing the WIF? I guess I'm learning here but rust would make it past the filter media? I guess I'm like Justin and lucky and happy. I've never even drained mine and I fuel up wherever.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 08:02 PM
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Not sure, but if an additive was used with an emulsifier it encapsulates the water droplets to let them pass.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 08:30 PM
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the DieselSite filter kits seems like it would prevent this..

http://www.dieselsite.com/dieselsite...separator.aspx

but that emulsifier might cause it to fail too..
 
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Thanks OP, every time I even begin to think about buying a new diesel I start to read stories like this and I fall in love with my 2011 6.2 all over again..........never again. Also, my dad just had to put $8500 into his 2007 6.0 with about 45k on the odometer for various mechanical breakdowns, all related to fuel system/delivery (before I convinced him to dump it and buy a Ram)......Never never never never never a Ford offered diesel. Ever. Period.....Out.


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Thanks OP, every time I even begin to think about buying a new diesel I start to read stories like this and I fall in love with my 2011 6.2 all over again..........never again. Also, my dad just had to put $8500 into his 2007 6.0 with about 45k on the odometer for various mechanical breakdowns, all related to fuel system/delivery (before I convinced him to dump it and buy a Ram)......Never never never never never a Ford offered diesel. Ever. Period.....Out.


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It's a scary world out there. Take yourself and your 6.2 into the basement immediately and save the two of you!!!


 
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