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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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No. Technology is great, don't put words in my mouth... The problem is it too often becomes a substitute for regular maintenance and inspection and people become dependent on the technology to the exclusion of good common sense, of which they were maybe a little short on to begin with.
Not trying to. But you asserted that someone using the system as a substitute for a tire gauge is going to have an epic failure. I used the system just like that in a pinch, and it worked out great.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
No. Technology is great, don't put words in my mouth... The problem is it too often becomes a substitute for regular maintenance and inspection and people become dependent on the technology to the exclusion of good common sense, of which they were maybe a little short on to begin with.
How many people with non-TPMS vehicles do you think check the air in their tires at any regular interval (more than each time they get an oil change)?

By and large, TPMS is a Good Thing for the average motorist.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tvsjr
How many people with non-TPMS vehicles do you think check the air in their tires at any regular interval (more than each time they get an oil change)? By and large, TPMS is a Good Thing for the average motorist.
That's the problem, all these requirements - these are not options - adds extra cost and complexity to a vehicle. If they weren't mandatory you might have a point.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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It's like using a paper and pen instead of a more convenient calculator. That's stupid. TPMS is reliable, I'll rely on it. That gives me more time to spend at work or play.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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Nothing more than a simple safety feature ....if it saves one life it's worth being on every automobile made, which I'm sure it's saved many a life and accidents as well.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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They could make everyone wear helmets and a national 35 mph speed limit. That would save thousands of lives.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 07:45 PM
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i have a 2014 tremor. how do you get your tire pressures from the tpms? my ford dealer was lost when i asked him what the sensors were set at. i think he called ford teck.

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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
That's the problem, all these requirements - these are not options - adds extra cost and complexity to a vehicle. If they weren't mandatory you might have a point.
Load a child in a helicopter who was critically injured after the SUV in which he was riding rolled due to a rear tire blowout secondary to underinflation, then we'll talk.

Yes, the safety stuff is very complex and adds quite a bit of expense. However, I can tell you first-hand that people today walk away from wrecks that would've been fatal 10 years ago.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by paulmican
i have a 2014 tremor. how do you get your tire pressures from the tpms? my ford dealer was lost when i asked him what the sensors were set at. i think he called ford teck.

thanks paul
Hi Paul,

Unfortunately that capability wasn't added until 2015. Never made sense to me, as some manufacturers have been displaying individual tire pressures for ten years now. Your truck isn't capable of telling you the tire pressures, only that one(or more?) is low.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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Load a child in a helicopter who was critically injured after the SUV in which he was riding rolled due to a rear tire blowout secondary to underinflation, then we'll talk.
Okay, so the operator fvcked up? What's there to talk about? Technology is not a substitute for safety - inspections, routine maintenance - preventive maintenance. Good try though.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tvsjr
Load a child in a helicopter who was critically injured after the SUV in which he was riding rolled due to a rear tire blowout secondary to underinflation, then we'll talk.

Yes, the safety stuff is very complex and adds quite a bit of expense. However, I can tell you first-hand that people today walk away from wrecks that would've been fatal 10 years ago.
The driver of said SUV should be charged with child endangerment / manslaughter in the case of death and put in jail when they fail to maintain (keeping proper air pressures and replace old or worn tires) their vehicle. I have zero sympathy for those that are ignorant and just plain lazy. Lack of personal responsibility makes my blood boil. Let's just make the vehicles unable to move if any "safety" related function, part, etc. Is out of spec............
 
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Okay, so the operator fvcked up? What's there to talk about? Technology is not a substitute for safety - inspections, routine maintenance - preventive maintenance. Good try though.
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The driver of said SUV should be charged with child endangerment / manslaughter in the case of death and put in jail when they fail to maintain (keeping proper air pressures and replace old or worn tires) their vehicle.
What if the tires were at the proper pressure when the trip began, and the tire got punctured on the way? Even the most skilled and **** pressure checker probably wouldn't foresee that happening before the tire failed.

The same happened to me a couple of years ago, but the tire lost pressure in seconds. I got a TPMS warning almost immediately, and I got the truck stopped while air was still hissing out and I still had control of the vehicle. Come to think of it...same happened to my wife in her new Odyssey in the summer of '15. Going through a construction zone and the light came on. She pulled safely off to hear the tire deflating.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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What if the tires were at the proper pressure when the trip began, and the tire got punctured on the way? Even the most skilled and **** pressure checker probably wouldn't foresee that happening before the tire failed.

The same happened to me a couple of years ago, but the tire lost pressure in seconds. I got a TPMS warning almost immediately, and I got the truck stopped while air was still hissing out and I still had control of the vehicle. Come to think of it...same happened to my wife in her new Odyssey in the summer of '15. Going through a construction zone and the light came on. She pulled safely off to hear the tire deflating.
Exactly. If you can afford a radio and air conditioning, you can afford a (comparatively cheap) system that monitors one of the most critical yet overlooked parts of a vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
They could make everyone wear helmets and a national 35 mph speed limit. That would save thousands of lives.
I might argue that that sort of law would work the inverse of intention. Many people might "obey" the law, but enough of the rest would flaunt it, and the resulting speed differentials might cause more accidents. Not saying that would happen, but it would be a possibility. How many people remember back in the 70s when we had the double nickel speed limit? As many people were driving 65 as were driving 55. law does not necessarily make practice.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
What if the tires were at the proper pressure when the trip began, and the tire got punctured on the way? Even the most skilled and **** pressure checker probably wouldn't foresee that happening before the tire failed.

The same happened to me a couple of years ago, but the tire lost pressure in seconds. I got a TPMS warning almost immediately, and I got the truck stopped while air was still hissing out and I still had control of the vehicle. Come to think of it...same happened to my wife in her new Odyssey in the summer of '15. Going through a construction zone and the light came on. She pulled safely off to hear the tire deflating.
I agree here, it happened to me last week. I ran over something and the TPMS warning showed 9. I had a camper shell installed the same day so I did walk around the truck and all tires were indeed inflated. Pulled over to a gas station while TPMS showed 9. Blew it up to 40 and it was back down to 10 within ten minutes. I had to spend $1.50 four times to keep it inflated while driving to Goodyear. They saw my truck was new so they fixed it free of charge.
 
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