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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Tag Identification

I don't have a door jamb sticker. My truck is from Canada, did they not put them on?

Anyway, what I do have is of course the vin # which I have decoded but I would like to decode a metal tag fixed just under the driver side hood hinge.

Don't chew on me to search for this info, I don't know what the dang tag is called!

Just point me I the right direction, please and thank you :-):
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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I've never come across anything decoding those tags but you can map most of the numbers to your door sticker (if you had one). My canadian 350 c&c has a door sticker but it's blank. What kind of a truck is yours?

I am attaching the tag, vin, and door sticker from my 86 F250 in case it helps you make the connections. Looks like it has a partial vin, maybe the engine type, and paint.

The tag from my 350 has a lot fewer numbers/letters=

Making some wild guesses on mine:

V6 = 300 6cyl (scratch that - it's a 'G')
4x = 4x4
MT = Manual Trans
1D1G = Ext and Int color
AC = Air Cond

Don't hold me to any of those though.





 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Mine is an 86 F-150. Style side, regs cab, long bed. 5.8 4v H.O. with a C6 3 speed. XLT Lariet trim, pretty deluxe.

My tag is completely scrambled from yours.

The funny thing is I don't see any evidence of a sticker, no residue or scrapes, and it's not painted over.

I'm pretty positive the truck has never been painted but this might be telling me it has.

Kram, in your signature you list two "C&C" trucks, what does this mean? Sorry but I'm still getting used to this new slang.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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Not too surprised since all of my tags seem to vary wildly.

C&C - cab and chassis aka utility/farm/bed-delete
My Canadian truck was a fuel tanker (500gal tank with meter and pto pump) but still not sure why the door sticker is blank.

NumberDummy might know if there's any official way to decode these or even the appropriate name for them

Also, there's a guy that can print those door stickers but I am not sure if he requires a photo of the old or if he has access to advanced info from just the vin.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 10:59 PM
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Per NumberDummy, those metal tags affixed at the firewall/cowl-junction area are what are known as Buck Tags, used during assembly at the factory and there are no known methods of decoding them.

Yes, every vehicle produced at the (er, any, even Canadian) factory built for sale in the USA came with a Certification Label on the door jamb... even incomplete vehicles built to be finished by a VAR (e.g. motorhome, ambulance, specialized utility vehicle, etc.) had them, the missing blanks were filled in by the VAR on their own, supplemental label. If yours doesn't have one, something is amiss.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Per NumberDummy, those metal tags affixed at the firewall/cowl-junction area are what are known as Buck Tags, used during assembly at the factory and there are no known methods of decoding them.

Yes, every vehicle produced at the (er, any, even Canadian) factory built for sale in the USA came with a Certification Label on the door jamb... even incomplete vehicles built to be finished by a VAR (e.g. motorhome, ambulance, specialized utility vehicle, etc.) had them, the missing blanks were filled in by the VAR on their own, supplemental label. If yours doesn't have one, something is amiss.
The Certification Label is composed of a clear outer layer with the info printed on the inner layer.

Sooner or later...over time when these labels got wet...the outer layer could peel off, taking some/all of the inner layer along with it.

The truck is registered by its specific VIN .. 1980 has 11 digits, beginning in 1981 and thru today, it has 17 digits.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The Certification Label is composed of a clear outer layer with the info printed on the inner layer.

Sooner or later...over time when these labels got wet...the outer layer could peel off, taking some/all of the inner layer along with it.

The truck is registered by its specific VIN .. 1980 has 11 digits, beginning in 1981 and thru today, it has 17 digits.
So, can I tell axle limts by the V.I.N.?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DDDDDMorgan
So, can I tell axle limts by the V.I.N.?
No, the AXLE code is listed by itself on the Certification Label.

Rear axle: 1986 F150 could have an 8.8" (has an inspection cover) or a 9" (no inspection cover).
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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I had an 86 F250, from Canada, it had the door jamb sticker.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 06:12 PM
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Well it looks like I'll have to crawl under this weekend to get the axle code and read the tag on my 9" rear ended.

I don't know why this is bugging me so much. Oh well, could be worse I suppose.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DDDDDMorgan
Well it looks like I'll have to crawl under this weekend to get the axle code and read the tag on my 9" rear ended.
If the tag is still there...
1986 F150 9" has a 3,750 lbs. rear axle capacity.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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ND tell me how to calculate this please.

How does this calculate to payload and GVW.

Sorry to be such a dope but I've never had a problem admitting ignorance.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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My 86 flare side was made in Canada and has no door post sticker or any evidence of one. Mine has original paint, it came from Arizona so it was subject to heat from the sun(dash cracked and window wipe weatherstrips dried out) so it's possible the plastic sticker peeled off, paint on the post looks shiney and good. Metal tag still present on the rear end housing which indicated an 8.8 rear with a 3.08 ratio. Mystery to me too on that door post label.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry B.
My 86 flare side was made in Canada and has no door post sticker or any evidence of one. Mine has original paint, it came from Arizona so it was subject to heat from the sun(dash cracked and window wipe weatherstrips dried out) so it's possible the plastic sticker peeled off, paint on the post looks shiney and good. Metal tag still present on the rear end housing which indicated an 8.8 rear with a 3.08 ratio. Mystery to me too on that door post label.
It doesn't make any difference if the truck was assembled in Canada or the USA, it would still have had a Certification Label glued to the left door face below the latch.

Since 1968, most vehicles assembled in Oakville Ontario Canada are sold in the US. Today, the Edge & Lincoln version are assembled there.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Guess I'm gonna have to order a Marti report to be the most accurate possible.

I'm hoping to get a travel trailer and I'm really concerned that I stay within limits for GWAR and such.

N.D. you are da bomb!
 
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