Good morning. Without going into all the gory details....I have a '60 f1oo frame with '56 bodywork on it. That's the way I got it. I want to do the toyota power steering conversion. The first thing I need to do is determine if the PO used the '56 or '60 steering column. My current steering column and box are all one piece which I know is consistent with a '56. Is a one piece steering column and box also a stock application for the '60? Is there anywhere I can look on the steering to find any identifying numbers? Thanks for any info.

 

One tip is to find someone with an interchange guide to see if they are the same. There should be a Ford number on a tag or cast into the box. Using this and the parts books that cover the 56 and 60 models is another way to determine what you have.

 

A little more information. It appears that my drag link is from a '60 suspension. Now I need to know if the steering column and steering box on your '60 f100s are one piece units. Thanks

 

I am not sure why it matters, both can be converted to PS using the Toyota box.

 

I'm trying to avoid any surprises. If the '60 uses a one piece steering box and column combo then I can feel somewhat confident that they kept the '60 setup or that the '56 and '60 are substantially the same. If the '60 uses a separate box and column then I have to believe the PO drilled different holes to mount a '56 box. It looks like there are several unused and unnecessary holes in the area and I don't want the adapter plate to weaken the frame in that area. I probably didn't explain it as well as I could. The PO made a lot of modifications,,,,,some good,,,,,,most bad. If this mod will involve welding to close holes or strengthen the frame I may put it off for awhile.

 

ALL trucks thru 1964: The steering shaft goes directly into the steering gear box.

So, in order to remove it, the Pitman Arm has to be disconnected from the sector shaft, then the entire column/gearbox must be removed as a unit.

The steering box ID tag is probably missing, so look on the steering gearbox housing for an ID number, post what it is.

 

It's out. The number is hard to read. Best guess 80081 second..30031..third 8cc1..fourth 3cc31. I probably could make some more guesses but the box was upside down and oil started leaking out of the steering wheel. By now you should know why I ask so many questions. I guess I should have asked one more..

 

Original column out of my 1960. Hope this helps some.

 

Thanks Walston. I think mine looks like that if not exactly like that. When I finish my Honey Do list I will compare to be sure. Thanks

 

If it helps someone help me....I did find the brand of GLEMMER on the box.

 

Are you sure it doesn't say "GEMMER"? They were an OEM steering box supplier for several automakers, including Ford. The 3CC31 number is consistent with others have found on their '57-60 Ford-GEMMER truck steering boxes.

 

Yes Sir, It is GEMMER. Twelve steps from the unit to the computer and I messed it up? Or is it eleven steps? I did walk by womens' volleyball, I remember that..... WAIT WHAT?

 

IIRC the 56 and earlier are different. Maybe the shaft is splined. I know the model A guys look for the 53-56 but don't want the 57-60

 

Thanks! I think based on all of your input I know for sure what I have and now how to proceed. Guys who like old trucks have proven time and again that they are the most willing to help and that it doesn't matter if it's a '56..'60 or in my case BOTH. Thanks to all!

 

3cc31 is the correct one...same as my 59 ford steering box gemmer "3CC31"