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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 06:43 AM
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Cooper recommends 10 years as the tire age maximum...I self impose 8 years which only affects my trailer tires...I burn the tread off every thing else :-)

To the OP, doesn't hurt to check lug nuts. Beyond that, check everything on a recent used car purchase.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 07:13 AM
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When I saw the post subject line, I thought I was in a Harley touring bike forum. That's a phrase used regarding a high speed "wobble" on the rear tire some have experienced.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
Changing engine oil every 3,000 miles is an oil company/quick lube ploy to sell oil twice as often as the oil actually needs to be changed. Your owners manual (particularly on new vehicles) will most likely say something very different from this figure.

Many people like to put products on their tires to make them nice and shiny. The down side is most of these products are petroleum based. Petroleum products applied to your tires dries them out --speeding up the process of dry rotting the rubber as evidenced by tiny cracks appearing all over the sidewalls of the tires.
Ultra, according to ArmorAll, their stuff is not petroleum based. Here is what I got from their website: (Quote ahead)

What are the ingredients in Armor All® Protectants? Do they include silicone, alcohol, ultraviolet inhibitors and petroleum distillates?
Armor All protectant and leather care protectant products contain surfactants and water-based silicone emulsions. They do not contain alcohols or petroleum distillates. In addition, Armor All® Outlast® Interior Restorer Cream and Outlast® Leather Restorer contain UV inhibitors.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hillcountryflt
When I saw the post subject line, I thought I was in a Harley touring bike forum. That's a phrase used regarding a high speed "wobble" on the rear tire some have experienced.
Caused by a multitude of neglected areas of the bike and rears its ugly head when riding hard through long sweeping turns at a high rate of speed, which causes the misalignment of the front end and rear end. Mostly on 2008 and older bikes.

Bad shocks and or under inflated rear shocks
Bad tires and or under inflated tires
Worn motor mount
Worn trailing arm bushing
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 03:31 PM
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I'm gonna vouch for bad tires, the bias ply on mine vibrate terribly past 65 (which is 52 mph on my speedo), I'd suggest new tires, like the condition of other things if you don't know how old it is, replace it especially tires
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Ultra, according to ArmorAll, their stuff is not petroleum based. Here is what I got from their website: (Quote ahead)

What are the ingredients in Armor All® Protectants? Do they include silicone, alcohol, ultraviolet inhibitors and petroleum distillates?
Armor All protectant and leather care protectant products contain surfactants and water-based silicone emulsions. They do not contain alcohols or petroleum distillates. In addition, Armor All® Outlast® Interior Restorer Cream and Outlast® Leather Restorer contain UV inhibitors.
Whatever it is I don't use it... my 65 Mustang has been in my family since 1979 and last owned by my brother who used the slick kid's stuff all the time. Now the tires and interior vinyl are starting to crack. Second, there is always a dang film on the inside of the windows after a series of hot days... a greasy, icky film like the glass has been sprayed with ArmorAll.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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I recently replaced my radius arm bushings, on my 72 F250 2wd, and am now experiencing wobble in the front wheels. Gets better at higher speeds. Tires are older bias plys but the issue wasn't there prior to replacing the bushings. I figured it messed with my toe. Did a quick tape check and I'm at about 1/8" of toe-in, which is correct from what I've read. Figure I will just take it in to a shop to have all the steering elements checked. Not sure if any shops in my area have the tools to adjust a solid beam to correct camber and castor though.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Whatever it is I don't use it... my 65 Mustang has been in my family since 1979 and last owned by my brother who used the slick kid's stuff all the time. Now the tires and interior vinyl are starting to crack. Second, there is always a dang film on the inside of the windows after a series of hot days... a greasy, icky film like the glass has been sprayed with ArmorAll.
Yeah, Hio is right. I spray the dash and vinyl seats of my Cougars and truck with ArmorAll and a month later the inside windows are steamed like the windows of my '50 coupe after the missionary act with my cheerleader.

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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 05:43 PM
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Yeah, Hio is right. I spray the dash and vinyl seats of my Cougars and truck with ArmorAll and a month later the inside windows are steamed like the windows of my '50 coupe after the missionary act with my cheerleader.

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I hope you don't have a Mohair headliner in that 50 John. It'll get moldy with too much "exercise" with that cheerleader.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Yeah, Hio is right. I spray the dash and vinyl seats of my Cougars and truck with ArmorAll and a month later the inside windows are steamed like the windows of my '50 coupe after the missionary act with my cheerleader.

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I hope you don't have a Mohair headliner in that 50 John. It'll get moldy with too much "exercise" with that cheerleader.
Definitely TOO much information.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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I hope you don't have a Mohair headliner in that 50 John. It'll get moldy with too much "exercise" with that cheerleader.
We were studying anatomy. Honest.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 11:19 PM
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Dang! I thought I was in the Jeep Forum! Every other thread mentions death wobble! Death wobble is an oscillation in the front end, usually started by incorrect caster, ( in the case of a lifted Jeep), worn tires, or worn out components. It quickly increases wear on steering joints, making it even worse. If the truck sat for a while, especially with bias ply tires, they may be flat spotted and must be replaced. If you can't find any slop in the steering, have a friend move the steering wheel back and forth, while you check each joint for lost motion. Check all steering linkage, pitman arm, steering shaft, and all. Jack up each side and try to rock the tire top to bottom to check for king pin wear. If one side of the joint moves and the other doesn't, there's your problem.Try rotating the tires. That may help temporarily. Worn shocks won't cause death wobble, but they will let it keep going once it starts.
Sorry, I didn't notice if you said your truck is a 4 x 4. If it's lifted, that opens up the caster angle problem.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 12:13 AM
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its 2wd,thing gets worse,took it to les swab here in our tiny town.truck been there few days,I ask to have front end aligned and tires check and balanced,this is the funny part,no one there has aligned a front end on a truck this old,so it hasn't and wont get done there,still laughing here,will pick it up in the morning,
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 12:35 AM
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In their defense, they don't have the proper equipment. the only thing they can do is set the toe angle.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 12:46 AM
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351cleveland that's exactly what they said,i know they did balance the tires,the message they left me didn't say if they found anything else wrong,will find out in the morning,not knocking swab,just thought it was a little funny,
 
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