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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 08:33 PM
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Good cheap engine to learn on?

Hey guys, somewhat offtopic, but any one of the old Ford motors might be a good choice...what's a good old motor to rebuild and learn on?
 
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Pretty much every engine is the same when it comes down to it. They all have a crankshaft, camshsft, pistons, connecting rods and valves.
 
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Questions are, when you are finished, what do you want to do with it? How much do you want to spend?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 08:19 AM
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Questions are, when you are finished, what do you want to do with it? How much do you want to spend?
$300 for a cheap block/heads and then I know that rebuild kits aren't cheap. I'd be saving up for it
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 08:21 AM
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Personally id start with rebuilding a lawnmower engine and then work up from there
 
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Yup, if you don't have any plans for the engine, I wouldnt bother with an automotive engine.

Find a overhead valve Briggs and Stratton and tear into it. It's functionally equivalent to the engines in OBS trucks minus the water pump.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselCamper
$300 for a cheap block/heads and then I know that rebuild kits aren't cheap. I'd be saving up for it
I have Pull-A-Part with its set pricing. An engine is $150 whether its a shot Pinto 4 cyl or a Viper (no chance in Hell there would ever be one on the yard) V-10.

E-bay is full of kits from the "you get what you pay for" to some reasonable priced/quality kits. I prefer online from main suppliers (I use Rock & Summit mostly, but occasionally the big 4 auto part stores) But all of that is a moot point... Its the machine shop that will cost like smoke & is always the most critical element of any engine build.

While a lawn mower is not bad idea (and maybe a good start for you) I think I would go with a cheap dirt bike. At least you might get to enjoy the fruit of your labor.

If it must be automotive, a 5.0/302 or 5.8/351 Windsor is my recommendation.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 10:38 AM
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An old motorcycle or minibike would be fun. Maybe a gokart. With everything online there's probably manuals parts, and forums for anything. Vintage lawnmower would be useful.

Ford motor, I say get a Y block. Nobody wants them, and they sound as good as a flattie. You can do a shadetree rebuild (Not in the parking lot of Elrod, but.) pretty easy. If you swing over to the HAMB there was a fellow who outlined with lots of pics. He didn't spend hardly anything.
 
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An old motorcycle or minibike would be fun. Maybe a gokart. With everything online there's probably manuals parts, and forums for anything. Vintage lawnmower would be useful.

Ford motor, I say get a Y block. Nobody wants them, and they sound as good as a flattie. You can do a shadetree rebuild (Not in the parking lot of Elrod, but.) pretty easy. If you swing over to the HAMB there was a fellow who outlined with lots of pics. He didn't spend hardly anything.
Duniway, actually, but I'm proud of you because they share the same parking lot.

I could probably rebuild a go kart motor in the bed of my truck, correct? That would be my best bet, I think.
 
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You could rebuild a Briggs and Stratton in your kitchen if you wanted.
 
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
You could rebuild a Briggs and Stratton in your kitchen if you wanted.
I'm assuming I should just buy a very cheap lawnmower and pull the motor out. I have a basic understanding of how the darn things work but getting HOE is always a lot better than reading books!
 
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Don't bother buying one. They get thrown out all the time, just pick one up off the side of the garbage or at a yard sale.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Yup, if you don't have any plans for the engine, I wouldnt bother with an automotive engine.

Find a overhead valve Briggs and Stratton and tear into it. It's functionally equivalent to the engines in OBS trucks minus the water pump.
This. Free lawnmowers and snow blowers are common on CL (seasonally). Get one, rebuild it, sell the engine for $5 more than the rebuild kit, scrap the rest and repeat.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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This. Free lawnmowers and snow blowers are common on CL (seasonally). Get one, rebuild it, sell the engine for $5 more than the rebuild kit, scrap the rest and repeat.
Is it actually a profitable business to do this?
 
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That is the idea. Snoblower makes sense, find one of those 60s or 70s Sears jobs, they are like tanks and work great. Start getting some rebuild manuals and surfing websites, the best thing is all the wisdom and experience explaining what NOT to do.
 
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