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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 07:54 AM
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Injector Hold Down Bolts

Would it be a good idea to change the injector hold down bolts when I do the injector o-rings? They have never been out at 333,000 miles.

Plan on doing glow plugs, injector wiring, valve cover gasket's, intercooler pipes and the dreaded oil cooler.

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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 08:10 AM
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I did injectors on one engine - the '97, and then orings on the '99 without replacing the bolts, and had no issues, but thoroughly cleaned them and the holes with either alcohol or acetone. The '97 hung around for another 18 months until it was hit in an accident, and the '99 I hoped was an oring problem, but I still had issues and finally went with remans and new cups about two years later. The second time after going into the '99 I bought new bolts, mostly because it would be the third time re-torquing the same bolts, but also as cheap insurance to try and avoid a local showing of the Rich & Stinky Whack-A-Mole play. Again, thoroughly cleaned the holes and new bolts.

They're not that expensive, and if you do have issues, one side of the injector bolts can't be removed without pulling the injector, which is quite a mess.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:11 AM
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New bolts

I would replace the bolts as the process of torqued bolts is the stretching of the bolt. Once stretched steel will not return to its original length. Get the bolts!
One more thing, you should lubricate the bolt before you install them to obtain the true torque spec.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Mine have been in and out a minimum of 3 times each some up to 6 on the original bolts. The last time was almost 2 years ago and I have not had one back out yet. Torqued with some loctite.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by oldboots1950
I would replace the bolts as the process of torqued bolts is the stretching of the bolt. Once stretched steel will not return to its original length. Get the bolts!
One more thing, you should lubricate the bolt before you install them to obtain the true torque spec.
If you use torque to yield bolts then that is true but I didn't think these were TTY.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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I changed my injectors back around 300k miles or so just for good measure. I just used my same old injector bolts. Didn't see a reason to replace them.

Only got 550,000 on them bolts now so who knows if they'll last or not.
 
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Originally Posted by F350-6
I changed my injectors back around 300k miles or so just for good measure. I just used my same old injector bolts. Didn't see a reason to replace them.

Only got 550,000 on them bolts now so who knows if they'll last or not.
Ok great, thx! Was your under the valve cover injector wiring in good shape?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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I know that the injector bolts are on the small side but they're getting torqued to 120 in lbs, or 10 ft lbs, I find it hard to believe that this kind of 'stress' would stretch even those bolts.
 
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24 bucks from Riffraff Diesel. As long as they have never ever been overtorqued, you should be fine... but it's a $24 insurance policy. Your call.
 
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford
Would it be a good idea to change the injector hold down bolts when I do the injector o-rings? They have never been out at 333,000 miles.

Plan on doing glow plugs, injector wiring, valve cover gasket's, intercooler pipes and the dreaded oil cooler.

Thx!
The oil cooler is far from dreaded....the injector orings can lead you down a path you never wished to go down.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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When I did inj orings I replaced my hold down bolts just for good measure. Were they bad.. I don't know. But I feel good about replacing them. When I have to repair/replace something on my truck I try to do any and all related parts as well. OCD.. Maybe
 
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Oh Yeah, OCD and Rich......
 
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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I would jump on replacing the bolts simply cause they cost less than a Benjamin.....Nothing Ford OEM makes seem to be under that number, Well maybe a RR sticker....
 
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I have never replaced the bolts in any of the sets of injectors I have done, unless one was damaged. The TQ you put on them is not enough to alter them. For the small cost, I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea, but I wouldn't lose sleep over re-using the bolts.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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On my first injector job I cracked off an injector bolt while torquing it. The only way I can understand it is that the guy before me must have over-torqued them once. Hours of drilling and helicoiling later, I now get new bolts every time I even mess around under the valve covers of any of our trucks.
 
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