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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 10:16 PM
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I'm in the middle of a cross country trip in my '86 F150 4x4 with the 5L V8. I pulled into a gas station and filled up, and when I tried to start back up, the truck would crank but not turn over. I've tried several times, tried getting a jump in case the battery was going bad (no change). The first crank or two are real slow and sluggish and then it seems to crank normally. Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Right now it looks like I'm sleeping at a gas station. I have noticed over the last few days that the first crank or two have been sluggish but it's always started...I could sure use some advice.

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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 10:28 PM
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First thing that comes to mind is the ignition module, try to start it again in a few hours after it cools off.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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BTW "crank" and "turn over" are the same thing, my guess is it cranks/turns over but won't start.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:00 PM
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Not sure if this will help you or not, but my 1981 did the exact same thing one time at a gas station... try wiggling all the ignition wires and check the connections. Mine had a loose connection that with wiggling took back off. I simply ended up putting dielectric grease on it and it's worked since.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Was it running and idling fine when you pulled in ... Nothing seemed odd?

Just trying to dig out any more systems ...

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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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Everything was doing great until I stopped. I've been on the road for nine hours with no issues till all of a sudden I stopped and it wouldn't start back up. Like I said, I've noticed sluggish cranking the last few days but always started up. The AC was frozen up when I opened the hood, but I can't see how that'd affect it. Battery terminals were a little corroded. I cleaned those with no change.

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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:21 PM
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So where are you? There might be a FTE member in the vicinity that could help.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:22 PM
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It is that "sluggish cranking" that makes me suspect the ignition module (sounds like it's no longer retarding the ignition timing in START).

Somebody brought up a good point, inspect all your electrical connections on ignition devices, and particularly the ones at the coil.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:24 PM
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I'm in West fork Arkansas
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:25 PM
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Working electrical connections now
 
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:25 PM
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When mine died like you described it was the same thing. Ran it for about an hour, pulled in to gas up and when I went to start it there was nothing. Would crank but not fire up.

My truck is a straight 6, but the connection that fixed mine was in a cluster of wires mounted on the inner fender somewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
It is that "sluggish cranking" that makes me suspect the ignition module (sounds like it's no longer retarding the ignition timing in START).
Quick troubleshooting: Disconnect and ground the center lead at the distributor cap. Although the engine obviously won't start, see if the cranking speed returns to normal. If so, that would point to the ignition module, as mentioned.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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So what was the outcome? All good now?


Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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So what was the outcome? All good now?


Inquiring minds want to know.
Timing sprocket was completely worn smooth and timing was off. Also found the water pump leaking while tearing that apart.

Thanks everybody for the advice.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortBed'86
Timing sprocket was completely worn smooth and timing was off. Also found the water pump leaking while tearing that apart.

Thanks everybody for the advice.
Well guess its good you found out why it no run. Just bad you had to find out that way.


So you doing the fix in the stations lot or had it towed?
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