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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Leveling kit vs. leveling blocks...

I'm seeing a lot of these leveling kits which are just a stack of chopped up leafs. So what is the functional difference between a leveling kit and a block? Seems to serve the very same purpose?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 04:28 AM
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The blocks increase the leverage above the axle - this can lead to axle wrap. The leaf spring kit raises the suspension and stiffens it simultaneously - giving a more solid lift without the wrap. Think standing a Tootsie Pop on the stick vs. cutting the stick and setting the Tootsie Pop directly on the table.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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I totally get what your saying and understand perfectly. With that said, a lifting block has the exact same foot print in contact with the lower side of the spring as the stock mounting location on the axle has with the spring... So how is there any difference on the effect the spring? I'm not trying to argue, and I'm not saying your wrong I'm just trying to settle it in my mind How a block is any different the stock mount other than 2" taller? I could understand the Leveling kit giving the spring more support if the longest spring in the kit was say 18 inches long or so. But the contact point on the spring looks to be about the same surface area as a block? Im guessing on that as I haven't seen a leveling spring pack in person. Again Im just trying to get my head around why or if there is really a marked difference in the two? Lifting methods.

Personally I have always heard to never put lifting blocks in the front... and to me the leveling kit looks to be just a different shaped lifting block? I'd love to know just what the load difference really are in the two different styles.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 05:16 PM
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Never mind... I found my answer on an older thread. Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by Metal twister
Never mind... I found my answer on an older thread. Thanks

could you link that thread? I'm following this because I need to level mine as well but can't decide the best way
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 01:19 AM
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could you link that thread? I'm following this because I need to level mine as well but can't decide the best way
Sorry bigb56 but I read it earlier and didn't save it and cant seem to find it again. In the nut shell it seems the issue is with the added torque on the U bolts and the flexibility of the front suspension is hard on the block system. The block does not support the weight of the truck except on that small landing so more support while allowing the spring to flex is a good thing. Im thinking adding a lift leaf to my spring pack should do the job nicely while adding a few inches of altitude. Might ride a bit rougher but that is what a 4x4 is all about right? Sorry I couldnt find that thread again. I did look for it for about n30 minutes.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 05:33 AM
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I'm getting ready to convert Stinky from a F250 to a F350 - which is pretty much a 4" block on the back axle, instead of the 2" block. I'm looking at the OUO TB-TB traction bar and traction block, with the airbag support option. This one kit keeps the axle wrap at bay, lifts the rear to the desired height, and adds the supports I need for the airbags I will be installing.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
I'm getting ready to convert Stinky from a F250 to a F350 - which is pretty much a 4" block on the back axle, instead of the 2" block. I'm looking at the OUO TB-TB traction bar and traction block, with the airbag support option. This one kit keeps the axle wrap at bay, lifts the rear to the desired height, and adds the supports I need for the airbags I will be installing.
I was looking at the same kit minus the air bags, although I could be easily convinced to do it all at once. I actually wouldn't lift the rear any if the kit was offered with the factory f-250 block height.
I was thinking I would also raise the front the 2" to compensate for the extra rear height. I prefer the level stance I have now.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 06:22 AM
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2001 F250 7.3 CCSB that I recently removed a messed up 6.5" lift. I went with Procomp 2" front leveling springs. Came with u bolts and 4 shocks. I added F350 rear springs and blocks.
I was going to use 2" leveling shackles, but decided against it when I found cracked rear springs, and the deal on some stock front springs fell through.
Anyway, here is how it turned out.

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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 06:52 AM
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I had factory springs in the front, which I later learned were a total joke because of the separated spring design:





I installed X-code springs in the front and this did a few things for me: It raised the nose 2" (levels the truck when empty, but the *** sags when loaded heavy), it profoundly smoothed out the ride in the nose, and gave me better nose control during passes and around corners.


 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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^^^ what's the benefit, if any, with having the shocks mounted that way? My boots sides are hung from the frame.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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^^^ what's the benefit, if any, with having the shocks mounted that way? My boots sides are hung from the frame.
The sticker reads right-side up.

I have no idea - I was out of town with the truck and the shop installed them that way.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Can I ask where you got those x codes?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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Can I ask where you got those x codes?
I'd like to know as well. I plan to someday do the same thing.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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JS: I put a leveling spring kit under the nose of mine. Had to buy the extended track bar because I was a 1/4 inch out of stock. Got it aligned and centered the wheel and I feel like I'm stirring paint when I hit a bump. Taking mine off. Looks good at a stand still but hold on to your *** on the road. Drove great before I tinkered. Guess it's not all about make-up after all.

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