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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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Alternator it is...

I decided to swap the generator for an alternator on my 49 F6 coe. The generator took a dump so rather than mess with that anymore, I bought the conversion bracket from Speedway,$39 and the 5/8 pully from speedway,$15. I then purchased a new mid 70's GM alternator from Oreilys for $45. I opted for a 2 wire alternator.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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I decided to trim the bigger alternator tab off to match the other side. It made it easier to stack up spacers to achieve the proper pulley alignment.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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The fan/generator bracket setup that Ford designed defies logic, but we were able to get it installed. You have to buy new coarse thread bolts for the speedway bracket. The factory ford bolts are fine thread.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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I had no problems at all with fitment. You must have a V8. Ok, never mind.
 
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Very cool, I use those alternators on everything. 1973 to at least 1985 GM, I just order one for a 1975 Camaro.
Here is the wiring diagram in case anyone needs it.


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I wired it according to this diagram but used a diode in place of the lamp. I have the factory volt gauge to tell me if it is working. The diode prevents back feed of voltage.
 
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Looks to be the same wiring just one is more old school.
 
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Curious, what backfeed do you expect with the key switch off?
 
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Curious, what backfeed do you expect with the key switch off?
Some of these GM alternator installations will feedback into the ignition and prevent engine shutdown. That is why the diode or some kind of load is placed in the P1 circuit. It is rumored that GM and others put a resistive wire in the circuit to prevent feed back. The install in my 1949 F4 with EZ wiring kit worked fine for two years and several thousand miles and then the engine suddenly would not turn off with the key. Obviously getting feedback into the HEI system. I pulled the P1 wire from the alternator, taped it back into the harness, and all is working fine. I run a voltmeter so I can tell the alternator is doing the job. I suspect the P1 is used for exciting the alternator only and mine must retain enough residual magnetism. I am pretty familiar with electrical systems but just never figured it important to figure out the "why". I've installed several GM alternators on old Ford tractors and always installed a small marker light for a load. HPFM?
 
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Precisely why I installed a battery cut out solenoid.
 
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P1 wire needs some resistance to excite the alternator, I use a 120 ohm resistor or a idiot light depending on application, never heard of feedback into the ignition system myself. Maybe the internal regulator shorted feeding power back into the ignition switch?
Only resistor wire I know of in GM applications is in the ignition circuit of 1974 and older cars that used points, drops the 12v to 9v, but HEI uses a full 12v.
 
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