Some issues after upgrading turbo
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Fleet Mechanic
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Some issues after upgrading turbo
I went with a powermax stage 1 and had the dealership near me install it. They have installed several aftermarket parts for me when I am being too lazy or I don't want to mess it up.
After picking it up I am now seeing a lack of power, slower throttle response, higher EGTs, and there is a slight burning oil smell.
Any ideas what could be the cause?
After picking it up I am now seeing a lack of power, slower throttle response, higher EGTs, and there is a slight burning oil smell.
Any ideas what could be the cause?
Cargo Master
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Do you have a boost gauge? Curious if you have a leak in up pipes which is easy to have happen, I know the oil smell should go away after a little while
On start up when I had leaks in my up pipes ,my truck sounded like a Cummings 5.9
On start up when I had leaks in my up pipes ,my truck sounded like a Cummings 5.9
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Most folks who put in a Powermax turbo have the same issues. I put one in and put up with it for a number of months. The truck couldn't get out of it's own way. Finally I bit the bullet and got a tune for it. Most everyone had told me I was going to need a tune, they were correct. All was good after that.
You are going to need a tune.
Mine smelled at first also, just burning off any of the coating from manufacturing. It went away.
You are going to need a tune.
Mine smelled at first also, just burning off any of the coating from manufacturing. It went away.
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I figured I would need a tune but I did not think it would perform this badly. Without one.
I do run SCT Livewire with the canned tunes but they do not make a difference at this point.
I do run SCT Livewire with the canned tunes but they do not make a difference at this point.
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Fleet Mechanic
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Boost levels are not as high as they were before, but not too far off. I was pushing almost 35lbs, but most were telling me that was not normal and my turbo was about to go out. I am now seeing 29lbs.
Cargo Master
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My powermax did have lower boost than stock and acted like u describe, it does need a tune to really make it shine. your peak boost sounds right, 35lbs your old one was ready to lift your heads
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Don't forget that running a tune may employ ways to fool the truck into thinking it's making 28lbs, so the wrench doesn't come on. And as discussed, be ready for high boost... studs oh yea!
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Fleet Mechanic
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UPDATE:
I did the VGT relearn process twice since I am sure I messed something up the first time. The truck is running much better now. The shop did find a slight oil leak from one of the gaskets on the turbo and they are fixing that tomorrow. Hopefully that will salve all of my issues.
I did the VGT relearn process twice since I am sure I messed something up the first time. The truck is running much better now. The shop did find a slight oil leak from one of the gaskets on the turbo and they are fixing that tomorrow. Hopefully that will salve all of my issues.
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UPDATE:
I did the VGT relearn process twice since I am sure I messed something up the first time. The truck is running much better now. The shop did find a slight oil leak from one of the gaskets on the turbo and they are fixing that tomorrow. Hopefully that will salve all of my issues.
I did the VGT relearn process twice since I am sure I messed something up the first time. The truck is running much better now. The shop did find a slight oil leak from one of the gaskets on the turbo and they are fixing that tomorrow. Hopefully that will salve all of my issues.
I didn't notice where you lived until just now. We are in Gettysburg. Came for the weekend. Pulling out tomorrow.
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I had several people tell me it was pretty high but I figured it hasn't broken yet....well I can't say that anymore.
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So this is an 03?? I've had massive issues with the 03 Pm. Finally I took one of them apart and was shocked at how the unison ring grooves for the veins are not a smooth transition like later models pm's. It kinda makes a "v" in the grooves. I think it sticks halfway. Needless to say,, I don't offer 03 pm's nor will I install them. Just my $.02.
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Fleet Mechanic
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So this is an 03?? I've had massive issues with the 03 Pm. Finally I took one of them apart and was shocked at how the unison ring grooves for the veins are not a smooth transition like later models pm's. It kinda makes a "v" in the grooves. I think it sticks halfway. Needless to say,, I don't offer 03 pm's nor will I install them. Just my $.02.
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Fleet Mechanic
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All right, so we made it to Dallas from Baltimore towing our TT that came in at about 13k lbs. I am not really happy with the turbo at all. It seems like my boost is still extremely low, not making more than 18lbs even with it floored going up a hill.
Egts are also running higher. I used to see about 1000 when towing, now i am 1200-1400. Fuel mileage has dropped as well.
So I am still seeing less power, less boost, higher egts, less fuel mileage. Using new tunes from Gearheads that I purchased after the turbo. Anyone have an idea on where I should start looking for the problem?
Egts are also running higher. I used to see about 1000 when towing, now i am 1200-1400. Fuel mileage has dropped as well.
So I am still seeing less power, less boost, higher egts, less fuel mileage. Using new tunes from Gearheads that I purchased after the turbo. Anyone have an idea on where I should start looking for the problem?