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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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Ignition Resistor Wire... Where is It?

I am doing some preventative maintenance on my '78/F250 4 WD/400 equipped dent and cannot physically find the ignition resistor wire. My harness is unmolested.

The schematic in the FSM shows it between the switch and coil. I have un-taped the engine compartment harness. No resistor wire to be found there. Just a straight plain red wire running from the connectors near the drivers side firewall to coil +.

Where can I find it?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 03:42 PM
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From the ignition switch: Follow the red w/green trace..it should lead you to a splice. The resistor wire should say "resistor wire do not cut or splice," 4' 1" long, 1.30 - 1.40 ohms resistance, 16 gauge wire. It may be pink/red. I think it leads to a brown wire to the 'I' terminal on the solenoid.

D7AZ-12250-A, Motorcraft DY 213. ('73 and later) Another possibility - D7AZ-12250-A, Motorcraft DY - 84 -A, 60" long, red w/green stripe, 1.30 - 1.40 ohms, 16 gauge. Thanks to NumberDummy.

I may be wrong on the Motorcraft numbers....someone with more knowledge than me might be along.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 03:58 PM
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Look at your firewall, towards the center, behind the engine. There should be a square, gray colored plug that has three wires going to it. One of these wires should be red w/ green trace. That should go back to the ignition switch. According to the Ford wiring schematic this is the resistor wire. It should have "resistor wire-do not cut or splice" printed on the insulation.
This is a picture of an earlier model ('73) that used a pink resistor wire.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 04:06 PM
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Filthy Beast, you're missing a digit in the Ford part numbers, the resistor wire is basic p/n 12250, the basic p/n 1225 is for wheel bearings.
'77-up models used the D7AZ-12250-A Motorcraft DY-213 resistor wire.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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Thanks, Mike

I went back and fixed it...my short term memory is the pits these days.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Thanks guys. It sounds like it is in the cab in some cases (filthybeast) or in the engine compartment (Mike, 1973) in other cases.

I have opened up the engine harness and don't see it so I'll trace from the ignition switch.

I do have a replacement if needed and it is indeed around 4-5 feet long.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Filthy Beast
From the ignition switch: Follow the red w/green trace..it should lead you to a splice. The resistor wire should say "resistor wire do not cut or splice," 4' 1" long, 1.30 - 1.40 ohms resistance, 16 gauge wire.

D7AZ-12250-A .. Resistor Wire-Ignition Coil (Motorcraft DY-213) / Obsolete ~ Available NOS & from auto parts stores.

49" long / Color coded red with green stripes / 1.30-1.40 ohms resistance / #16 gauge wire.

Applications: 1977/89 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline.
Fixed it for you...you mixed up two different resistor wires.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue and White
Thanks guys. It sounds like it is in the cab in some cases (filthybeast) or in the engine compartment (Mike, 1973) in other cases.
Misunderstanding. The bulk of it is under the dash. In the case of the '73, it's under the dash as part of the main wiring harness. Where the harness goes through the firewall, it goes through and terminates just behind the engine where the "engine gauge feed" harness plugs into it. That's the harness that feeds the ignition coil, oil pressure sender and the water temp sending unit. Once the pink resistor wire hits the connector for the gauge feed harness, it goes back to being a regular copper wire.
The picture I posted is part of the under dash section of the resistor wire.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Thanks, Mike

I went back and fixed it...my short term memory is the pits these days.
Hah! Nice to know I'm not alone
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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I found it (I think). Mostly wrapped up in original factory tape. Also routed with other wires from the switch up over the column to the firewall high on the drivers side where wires pass through to the engine compartment on my truck.

This service is mostly preventative after a flat bed ride home from a bad ignition switch. This resistor wire has been well protected and I guess it is pretty reliable to start with. At this point I see little benefit in disturbing it.

The new one with some alligator clips will go behind the seat just in case. In an emergency, I can jump the coil from the starter solenoid if need be.

I'll clean up the engine harness, make preventative replacement of the 40 YO original coil and coil connector, re-tape it and button it up.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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You can test the resistor wire (for grins & chuckles) to see if it's history:

Key in "RUN," engine off, the DVOM + to coil + and the negative to a good ground.
If you read between 6 - 8 VDC, the wire is good. Any more or less voltage, the resistor wire is shot. You probably knew that already.......

@ NumberDummy - Thanks for the correction...I'm off today! Must be too much blood in my alcohol system
 
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 07:54 AM
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I thought they stopped using the resister wire when points were eliminated?
 
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Originally Posted by jas88
I thought they stopped using the resister wire when points were eliminated?
Nope, the DS II still uses a resistor wire.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jas88
I thought they stopped using the resister wire when points were eliminated?
Nope...the resistor wire was used all the way up to fuel infection and multi-coils, I believe. Even some foreign vehicles used it. Some vehicles may not have it due to the coil having built in resistance, probably aftermarket stuff.

If no resistance wire is used, the coil would overheat and go bad.

HEI equipped vehicles don't use a resistance wire - they need a constant 12 volts DC.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 05:49 AM
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As an update, its back together and voltage checks good. Also running sweet with fresh tuneup. My new resistor wire is rigged with alligator clamps and behind the seat just in case. Thanks for the assist.
 
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