Dishonest People
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Fleet Mechanic
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Dishonest People
I really do not like dishonest people.
I realize that deals on Craigslist are "buyer beware", but I expect a direct question to be answered honestly.
Such as "Do these wheels/tires still have TPMS sensors on them?"
When the reply is "They have TPMS", I figure all is good.
Well... it turns out they wheels/tires I purchased do not have the sensors. I could not figure out why the sensors would not sync, even when I followed the relearn vs re-train procedure.
It came down to the opportunity I was presented when I picked up a very large nail/screw/chunk of metal over the weekend and had to replace the tire.
Turns out there are NO sensors in the wheels!
Naturally, this explains why the truck could not relearn!
I'm not sure what I could have done differently, and it does not matter at this point.
Just venting over my dismay regarding dishonest people.
I realize that deals on Craigslist are "buyer beware", but I expect a direct question to be answered honestly.
Such as "Do these wheels/tires still have TPMS sensors on them?"
When the reply is "They have TPMS", I figure all is good.
Well... it turns out they wheels/tires I purchased do not have the sensors. I could not figure out why the sensors would not sync, even when I followed the relearn vs re-train procedure.
It came down to the opportunity I was presented when I picked up a very large nail/screw/chunk of metal over the weekend and had to replace the tire.
Turns out there are NO sensors in the wheels!
Naturally, this explains why the truck could not relearn! I'm not sure what I could have done differently, and it does not matter at this point.
Just venting over my dismay regarding dishonest people.
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People tell you what you wants to hear as long as they get their money, what do they care. Unfortunately for you, depending on what you need for your truck, It's going to cost anywhere from $30 - $100 per sensor. Unless you just ignore the light on the dash and live with it.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Maryland
People tell you what you wants to hear as long as they get their money, what do they care. Unfortunately for you, depending on what you need for your truck, It's going to cost anywhere from $30 - $100 per sensor. Unless you just ignore the light on the dash and live with it.
In the end, the price was not much less than brand new tires on my old wheels. The only positive left now is the wheels are in terrific shape compared to my old ones. At least there is some silver lining.
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When I put new wheels on my Grand Marquis last fall, I paid about $200 for new TPMS sensors... they don't work worth a damn... every time I get on the freeway, I get a "sensor fault" after about 15 miles of driving at highway speed. I remember when I bought them, the guy at the counter said the best solution was a piece of black electrical tape... over the idiot light on the instrument panel. I think he was right... except I'd also have the clear the fault on the dash display every time I got in the car. :-(
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I had that TPMS system disabled at the dealership for my durango. The thing never worked right from day one and the tire light in the dash was bugging the 
out of me. Thing was just a PITA, and what for? I can check my own tire pressure.
out of me. Thing was just a PITA, and what for? I can check my own tire pressure.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Maryland
I felt this way too about tpms, but I will say that if it was functioning when I picked up the metal that gave me the flat I would have been notified before the tire was flat and possibly given me a chance to stop before it got low enough to be damaged by driving.
My gripe is not with tpms, but with people who have no integrity.
My gripe is not with tpms, but with people who have no integrity.
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I really do not like dishonest people.
I realize that deals on Craigslist are "buyer beware", but I expect a direct question to be answered honestly.
Such as "Do these wheels/tires still have TPMS sensors on them?"
When the reply is "They have TPMS", I figure all is good.
Well... it turns out they wheels/tires I purchased do not have the sensors. I could not figure out why the sensors would not sync, even when I followed the relearn vs re-train procedure.
It came down to the opportunity I was presented when I picked up a very large nail/screw/chunk of metal over the weekend and had to replace the tire.
Turns out there are NO sensors in the wheels! Naturally, this explains why the truck could not relearn!
I'm not sure what I could have done differently, and it does not matter at this point.
Just venting over my dismay regarding dishonest people.
I realize that deals on Craigslist are "buyer beware", but I expect a direct question to be answered honestly.
Such as "Do these wheels/tires still have TPMS sensors on them?"
When the reply is "They have TPMS", I figure all is good.
Well... it turns out they wheels/tires I purchased do not have the sensors. I could not figure out why the sensors would not sync, even when I followed the relearn vs re-train procedure.
It came down to the opportunity I was presented when I picked up a very large nail/screw/chunk of metal over the weekend and had to replace the tire.
Turns out there are NO sensors in the wheels!
Naturally, this explains why the truck could not relearn! I'm not sure what I could have done differently, and it does not matter at this point.
Just venting over my dismay regarding dishonest people.
We can all thank Ford and Firestone for TPMS.
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That sucks. Perhaps I can brighten your day 
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Same here. I drive a rig and have to check 18 tires anywhere from two to five times per day. I end up checking my personal vehicles like my normal pretrip just out of habit(and my wife never checking anything and driving our car with no oil and blowing the engine up).
That being said, I agree 100% with the dishonest people part. I just always assume anything I am looking to buy from an individual off sites like Craigslist, eBay or auto trader is in twice as bad condition as they say or that they have no clue what they are even selling. You go to look at a "rust free" car and 90% of the under carriage is rusted out. Or someone advertising a boss 302 engine for $500 that they saw taken out of the 69 boss Mustang and it's very clearly a 1973 302 sitting next to a 1973 maverick with no engine.
That being said, I agree 100% with the dishonest people part. I just always assume anything I am looking to buy from an individual off sites like Craigslist, eBay or auto trader is in twice as bad condition as they say or that they have no clue what they are even selling. You go to look at a "rust free" car and 90% of the under carriage is rusted out. Or someone advertising a boss 302 engine for $500 that they saw taken out of the 69 boss Mustang and it's very clearly a 1973 302 sitting next to a 1973 maverick with no engine.
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The 1973 Maverick 302 is the best. I've run into many similar situations. People selling Jeeps with 4.0 v6's. I tried to buy a 1969 F100 once with the original motor..... a 352....that obviously was not a 352 because they never a 352 in trucks. Most Ford FE blocks were stamped 352, including 360's and 390's that did get put into trucks. I could go on and on. I went to buy a chevy 6.0 5 speed 4x4 one time "Cleanest 02 you'll find"...I drove 3 hours on a Tuesday night.....interior covered in mud, panels ripped off, emblems missing, paint oxidized, tailgate beat up, check engine light, abs light, coolant leaking
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Fleet Mechanic
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Yup, checking the tire pressure is something you should do regularly.
IMHO the only benefit tpms provides is an early warning about 'sudden' low pressure. Just such a warning would have saved my front tire this past weekend. This is where, no matter how prepared you are with your tire pressures, you do not know until it is too late. Had I known sooner, I may have been able to get the tire off without any internal damage; patch it and be all good.
As it stands, I trashed the front tire as I pulled off the side of the road and had to get a new one; this is when I learned about the deception. I suspected something, but this confirmed it. I guess I was at the tipping point and complained about something that we learn early on....
In God We Trust; all others, bring data.
IMHO the only benefit tpms provides is an early warning about 'sudden' low pressure. Just such a warning would have saved my front tire this past weekend. This is where, no matter how prepared you are with your tire pressures, you do not know until it is too late. Had I known sooner, I may have been able to get the tire off without any internal damage; patch it and be all good.
As it stands, I trashed the front tire as I pulled off the side of the road and had to get a new one; this is when I learned about the deception. I suspected something, but this confirmed it. I guess I was at the tipping point and complained about something that we learn early on....
In God We Trust; all others, bring data.
