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So what do you do if you get bitten by a rattler out in the middle of nowhere?
"The Doctor says you're gonna die."
 
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Here is a story from 2002 sitting on a rock rattlesnake bit his palm when all said and done $700k. Pictures make you think.

http://www.rattlesnakebite.org
 
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Just read the article and decided to be brave and look at the photos. ..Very Graphic. That kid went thru hell,
 
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Holy Moly those pictures were crazy and very interesting at the same time!
Now I'm really worried about our 10 week trip this summer taking us through Yosemite, Banff and Jasper National Parks. I really need to educate my 6 yr old kids on snake safety, and my wife as well. Probably I could use some pointers as well.
 
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Originally Posted by TheLex
Holy Moly those pictures were crazy and very interesting at the same time!
Now I'm really worried about our 10 week trip this summer taking us through Yosemite, Banff and Jasper National Parks. I really need to educate my 6 yr old kids on snake safety, and my wife as well. Probably I could use some pointers as well.
Don't poke the snake.

Most snakes are not poisonous, but they'll still strike if provoked. In general, if you leave them alone they'll leave you alone. Stay on established trails and you're unlikely to see them.
 
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Originally Posted by TheLex
Holy Moly those pictures were crazy and very interesting at the same time!
Now I'm really worried about our 10 week trip this summer taking us through Yosemite, Banff and Jasper National Parks. I really need to educate my 6 yr old kids on snake safety, and my wife as well. Probably I could use some pointers as well.
Yep same boat for me.

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Don't poke the snake.

Most snakes are not poisonous, but they'll still strike if provoked. In general, if you leave them alone they'll leave you alone. Stay on established trails and you're unlikely to see them.
​​​​​​​Good to know Thank you
 
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Stay on established trails and you're unlikely to see them.
How do the snakes know where the established trails are? Yeah, no I agree they pretty much want to be left alone. They get pretty large out west, impressive. Probably more a hazard for pets than anything.
 
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How do the snakes know where the established trails are? Yeah, no I agree they pretty much want to be left alone. They get pretty large out west, impressive. Probably more a hazard for pets than anything.
There are signs for the trails.

Every once in a while you'll come upon a sunbather laying right across the trail. If I'm on my mountain bike I pull a wheelie and go right over it. If I'm on foot and I can't easily go around I'll stand back and try to get it to move off the trail with a few well placed rocks tossed at it.
 
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I wonder if the "Tin Man Suit" from the Wizard Of Oz would be too hot for me in the summer desert?
 
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You can buy gaiters that go on your calves/ankles. Many of them are made from Kevlar or Cordura. Should the gaiters ever get bitten by a poisonous snake they should be discarded as there may be poison embedded in the fabric. This may be a suburban myth. There are stories floating around of people surviving a snake bite with no penetration of the gaiter but then die later when they have an open wound that comes into contact with the gaiter. That would kind of suck.
 
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These snake gaiters I have are made by Whitewater 17" high, 1000 denier nylon cordura. When I initially got them I was doing alot of work in the East and Southern states and copperheads were an everday encounter but did see rattlers in PA.

 
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There are stories floating around of people surviving a snake bite with no penetration of the gaiter but then die later when they have an open wound that comes into contact with the gaiter.
Sounds like a variation of the old tale how the son was killed by the same rattlesnake that killed his father. The fang was embedded in the boot, and he died years later. BS.

We always checked our boots before putting them on in the morning. And I remember dad telling me cowboys would put a new rope around their sleeping bag, the snakes don't like crawling over new rope. LOL
 
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Felt adventurous for a longer back road road trip. Some pics of the road trip from Patagonia [fr58] to Lochiel [fr 58, 49, 61] (8 resident town on the US/ Mex border)- Montezuma Pass, Coronado National Monument.

From Patagonia to Lochiel is roughly 20 miles which 17+/- are gravel, dirt, sand 1.5 hours with a couple stops for pics but it's a slow go drive with some rough roads but nice views. There was some boondocking spots for truck campers or short travel trailers I wouldn't pull a long/ tall trailer because of low branches/ tight areas.












Lochiel to Coronado National Monument is only 28 miles on 61 which is dirt/ gravel road, once again it's a slow go at times because of road roughness. Roughly 2.5 hours with a couple stops for pics. Overall nice day trip but beware you are away from civilization and under the eye of border patrol from many towers with cameras seeing the border is within close proximity of 61.
View of Mexico



Many long views and nice scenery along the route. This is a blimp off in the distance used for air surveillance for small planes.

https://www.cbp.gov/frontline/frontl...mber-aerostats







 
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Thanks for the tour ........
 
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