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Old May 30, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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Oil Filter Fitting issue

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I took a few minutes this weekend to service the truck with some fresh engine oil and filter. I always use a Motorcraft FL-820S filter. I notice the 6.2 engine does not subscribe to the hand tight 1/4 turn technique since I have owned the truck. It tends to leak. I find myself using a strap style filter wrench to tighten the filter down to the point where it doesn't leak. This is a pain since the exhaust is there as well as some other components. The van in work is the same way 4.6 V8. It needs a strap wrench to tighten the filter down to stop it from leaking. The only engine that does not leak is the 4.0 V6 in my Explorer. Never a problem. It usually does a drool thing down the side of the engine but a quick spray of brake clean solves that mess. Is the oil filter socket the way to go in this case? What's your take on this?
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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I'd use a socket rather than a strap wrench. jmho
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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Now that's odd...I've never used anything to tighten a filter before, and I can't ever remember one leaking.
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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maybe the filter base is uneven and you need the extra torque the wrench gives to crush the filter gasket enough to seal the gap? But the fact you have two vehicles of different styles that do it makes me think that maybe it's something in your technique? Do you put the filter on dry or do you oil the gasket first, that makes a difference on how tight you can turn it by hand. I've never had a problem just using my hands, but then I have a really strong grip and have had problems not being able to get filters off because I hand tightened them too much.
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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Same here. I've never had a problem with one leaking and I just hand tighten them. I oil the gasket and make sure the filter is free of any residue before tightening it.
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 10:27 PM
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I typically lube the gasket with some of the old oil and spin it on. I turn them as tight as I can get and have never had an issue. Maybe you're tightening them too much?

The filter base is always coated in oil, so I don't think lubricating the O-ring does much of anything.
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 05:00 AM
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Did the old O-ring stay with the engine when the old filter was removed?
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 05:58 AM
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mine seals with just using my hand.


check the surface of the oil filter mount.. for flatness.. trueness.. some kind of damage.


should seal with a 1/4 turn. every time. this is OLD SCHOOL. started around 1966 or so. and has not changed much
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 07:20 AM
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yeah I thought of the old seal getting "stuck" on the filter base. I can change the oil on any other vehicle and not need a tool (Not true the wife's old Pontiac would need a filter wrench to get the oil filter off but not back on.) The hand tight 1/4 turn has been the way I have done oil since when I can remember. I just find the work van in work and my truck need a tool to make the connection complete. Don't know why. Same filter similar mounting style. Different times of the years and periods bought. I wish I could say it was a batch, stock at the store or something of the like.
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 07:31 AM
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I've never heard of this issue before. Always hand tightened any filter I've ever installed on any vehicle and never experienced this. This is odd, maybe check the threads for damage?
 
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My 6.2 leaks not a drop with a hand tightened oil filter. I do have arms like Popeye though. So ymmv.
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Squisher
My 6.2 leaks not a drop with a hand tightened oil filter. I do have arms like Popeye though. So ymmv.
Arms like popeye? I think that may be a medical condition and you should have it looked at.
 
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1/4 turn and no leaks for any oil filter I have ever changed.
 
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Originally Posted by LakelandFordParts
I've never heard of this issue before. Always hand tightened any filter I've ever installed on any vehicle and never experienced this. This is odd, maybe check the threads for damage?
I think we have a winner. I will have to see if I can take a look at the threads in about 5000 miles or so. However this would make sense if the threads are crossed up. A poor aligning thread could cause the gasket not seal correctly and cause a leaking condition. I know on the work van they literally had the filter tightened so much that it was a pain to get it off. The filter was on there in such a way I thought it was some kind of external Transmission filter set up. However, when I realized it was the oil filter, I believe it was on there for several years. I told my boss there might have been a good chance the filter has been on there for awhile. The company servicing the vehicle prior to in house might have been doing a drain and fill and skipping the filter since it was basically fused to the engine block.

However, this might have been the case with last time I took the truck to the dealer for an oil change. Winter months last year. It was cold and snowy. Dealer Service coupon that made dollar The lube tech felt the need to crank the filter and tweak the threads a bit. I don't know.

Otherwise, I am not crazy in thinking I am doing something wrong with the filter. Hand tight 1/4 turn is still the rule of the land.
 
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