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Old May 30, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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oh, i see. i didnt know that.
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 10:41 PM
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There are a couple of pics out there of lariats with them painted, but they could have just put them on the test trucks to show.

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It also prevents those folks from using their vehicle on roads that prohibit commercial vehicles like parkways. And, despite a revision to the law trying to get through OVER and OVER, it always dies in committee.

Is there an active bill for this session? I would at least like to call my Rep and Senator to tell them I support it.
 
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There are two and I believe they are being run together now.

Senate bill S.1825 https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S1825
House bill H.3010: https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H3010

Nothing has happened in a long time on them and they expire at the end of the current session.
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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There are two and I believe they are being run together now.

Senate bill S.1825 https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S1825
House bill H.3010: https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H3010

Nothing has happened in a long time on them and they expire at the end of the current session.
NYS has passed similar laws but the qualification is precise and extremely prohibitive:
Pick-up Trucks (Part 106.6 (b) and (c)) - you can register it in the passenger class if it meets certain conditions, depending on its unladen weight.
If your modified or unmodified pick-up truck has an unladen weight less than 6,001 lbs., you can register it in the passenger class if it meets the following conditions:
    If your modified pick-up truck with an unladen weight greater than 6,000 lbs., you can register it in the passenger class if it meets the following conditions:
      NOTE: These modifications must be permanent. If you use the pick-up truck without the required modifications, then you must register it in the commercial registration class.
       
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      Old May 31, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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      Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
      There are two and I believe they are being run together now.

      Senate bill S.1825 https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S1825
      House bill H.3010: https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H3010

      Nothing has happened in a long time on them and they expire at the end of the current session.

      Well I like the House version better, do not like how the Senate version only identifies "pick up trucks", should include all dually's.
      Zero co-sponsors is one reason it will never leave committee.
      Who is fighting this on the other side? The Registrar?
       
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      Old May 31, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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      Originally Posted by bigred460ci
      Well I like the House version better, do not like how the Senate version only identifies "pick up trucks", should include all dually's.
      Zero co-sponsors is one reason it will never leave committee.
      Who is fighting this on the other side? The Registrar?

      Not sure. I'm sure it would be a revenue loss for them to do the right thing...
       
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      Old May 31, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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      Not sure. I'm sure it would be a revenue loss for them to do the right thing...
      Will the new "driverless" 18-wheelers they are testing now be required to have a medical card, fire extinguisher, reflective triangles, etc?

      That will be the true revenue loss.

      I think RV operators above a certain size / weight should be required to obtain something like a CDL, because they are responsible for moving a very large / very heavy combination on public roads. That seems very reasonable. However, they should not be registering commercial.
       
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      That won't happen. To many seasoned citizens with pull driving 60k+ GVWR DP's along with the RV industries lobbyists going batchit about their revenue losses. Personally, I'm fine without an RV based license. There is no rash of inexperienced RV related accidents.
       
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      That won't happen. To many seasoned citizens with pull driving 60k+ GVWR DP's along with the RV industries lobbyists going batchit about their revenue losses. Personally, I'm fine without an RV based license. There is no rash of inexperienced RV related accidents.
      I see more issues with people pulling out in front of, or cutting off, those of us towing fifth wheels and big RVs. They don't realize we aren't as maneuverable and can't stop as fast as their little car. Heaven forbid we get stuck for 5 minutes behind some RV driving the speed limit!
       
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      That won't happen. To many seasoned citizens with pull driving 60k+ GVWR DP's along with the RV industries lobbyists going batchit about their revenue losses. Personally, I'm fine without an RV based license. There is no rash of inexperienced RV related accidents.
      I get nervous seeing elderly drivers operating a 40k bus. I'm certain some of these people are perfectly competent drivers, but still. Chances are we could do away with a hazmat requirement for tanker drivers and there wouldn't be a rash of accidents or explosions there either.
       
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      Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
      That won't happen. To many seasoned citizens with pull driving 60k+ GVWR DP's along with the RV industries lobbyists going batchit about their revenue losses. Personally, I'm fine without an RV based license. There is no rash of inexperienced RV related accidents.
      I am a seasoned citizen with license and ability to drive any commercial vehicle including doubles and triples. And it angers me to watch people jump from a Fiesta or Chevy II into a class A motorhome or 38' fifth wheel camper and head on down the road without any regard for ability to handle, back up, highway safety and laws or mostly, common sense. Witness one of these inexperienced drivers at a fuel stop, campground or anywhere if reverse is required. There may not be a rash of accidents directly involving the RV but look at the defenses required of other drivers due to an inability to operate a vehicle of this size, or in many cases any vehicle at all. I stopped driving commercially several years ago and among the reasons is the danger the average highway driver imparts on not only themselves but others on the highway, especially those in large commercial vehicles who do not have the ability to swerve, brake and avoid those who don't give a damn about the others on the road whether through lack of training and experience or mostly just plain stupidity and greed for their own inability to understand the relationship each vehicle has to the others on the highway.
       
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      I get nervous seeing elderly drivers operating a 40k bus. I'm certain some of these people are perfectly competent drivers, but still. Chances are we could do away with a hazmat requirement for tanker drivers and there wouldn't be a rash of accidents or explosions there either.
      HAZMAT requirements: stop at RR tracks, learn what can be loaded next to what (doesn't make much difference if the trailer is loaded when the driver picks it up), memorize what placards need to be on the side of the truck and how far to run when if it goes up in smoke.
       
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      Old May 31, 2016 | 11:44 AM
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      There are a lot bigger concerns related to driving that should be addressed WAY ahead of proposing an RV license...LOL. Cure all those first then you can require me to get a license to do something I already know how to do.
       
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      how far to run when if it goes up in smoke.
       
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