Except in the 2017 Chassis Cab 450/550 have the 6.8 V10 as the standard still.

 

It also comes with the 5r110 instead of the 6r140

 

I'm with you on that. I had my one diesel and now I'm done.
I'm starting to see a lot more gasser F250's around as well. Looks like the 6.2L is gaining a following.

 

Not for 2017, maybe 2016 that I don't know. For the 2017 Chassis all motors come with the 6spd torqshift. I have the brochure in front of me.

 

I think the 6.2L is getting a new transmission, the torqueshift-g. It might only be for the F250. I'm pretty sure all the transmissions will be 6 speeds.

 

Yeah the new TorqShift-G is a new design just for the F250 6.2. I'm looking forward to having it!

 

Really? Maybe they'll finally fit the 6R140 into the F53

Edit: Just looked didn't mate the 6R to the V10 until 2016 which was a huge draw back because it always carried over the 5R from the early years. And just found out they started putting it in the F53 as well, now I'm actually excited .

 

The cab is the same, but everything underneath is different and the capabilities are vastly different. You can also get certain configurations in the Super Duty not available to the F-150 (for example, a crew cab long bed or dually). The gas 6.2L Super Duty is rated for more towing, and potentially much higher payload than the 150. It also sits up higher, has a larger fuel capacity, and a much heavier duty transmission, transfer case, front and rear axles, suspension...even the aluminum bed it tougher on the Super Duty than on the 150.

Don't get me wrong, I love the F-150 - we just traded our 2011 5.0L Crew in for a 2016 2.7L Crew. Great truck.

 

And think of it this way....if you are towing something really heavy, does it actually matter if you occasionally could climb a hill slightly faster?
As soon as the steep part of the hill is over the gas is just as fast on a road trip.
On a long road road trip towing our boats way up north, my buddy and i bith had the boxes of our pickups loaded with suplies....and each towing our jetboats. My boat is bigger and heavier than his is.
He had his diesel f350 and me my 5.7 hemi gas dodge.
I had 2 extra people in my truck than he did....he maybe had an extra 100 pounds of stuff in the box....my boat and trailer combo outweigh his by 1600 pounds. I let him leave first thinking the diesel would just take off and be gone. Oddly enough at each and every stop we made say every 1.5 to 2 hours along our drive he was still the same 200 feet or so in front of me i gave him as a safe following distance.
He was amazed and figured he would just drive off and have to wait for me.
On a long and steep uphill mountain stretch he would get a slightly bigger gap on me....but not once was it so large i still couldn't see him.....and if i did 1 or 2 kms hour more than him after the hill climb section, in a short period was right behind him again.
When he traded his diesel f350 in last year he got a gas 6.2 and said on a long road trip if it does add 3 minutes overall who cares about it on a 6 hour drive.

 

I agree for the most part. In fact, 0-60 and quarter mile times are actually quite close for the gas and diesel trucks. But I had a 2015 gas and a 2016 diesel, otherwise the same. The difference is the feel. The gas, although plenty powerful, always felt like it was moving something heavy...even when it was empty. The diesel just feels like it has so much power to spare...so effortless. With 10k behind the gas up a steep hill, the truck is wound up working hard in a low gear. It does go up the hill. But the diesel just goes up the hill once again feeling like there is nothing behind you, and with no additional noise or revs. Really, the only indication is the turbo gauge showing more boost.

I think, as we've discussed, it's about usage. If all you're going to do is tow a jetboat and load the bed, even a gas Super Duty is overkill. An F150 would be fine. If you are going to tow a 12k RV cross country twice a year...yeah, the gas will get it done. But the diesel will do it better, and with better economy. If you're going to tow a 20k trailer, well, the diesel is the only option.