M5R2 no reverse...
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M5R2 no reverse...
So the other day I discovered that I reverse it completely "empty" and 5th is a challenge to get into when parked. So I take off the boot and not surprisingly, the shifter bushing is toast. Replacement kit is on the way...
My question is that if it's likely that the bushing will bring back reverse and 5th by itself, or is it possible that the fork failed? I'm doing the bushing anyways, but figure if it's a good idea to do the fork while I'm in there or not...
Also 2nd tends to grind just a bit, so would it best just to do all the forks?
Thanks, guys!
My question is that if it's likely that the bushing will bring back reverse and 5th by itself, or is it possible that the fork failed? I'm doing the bushing anyways, but figure if it's a good idea to do the fork while I'm in there or not...
Also 2nd tends to grind just a bit, so would it best just to do all the forks?
Thanks, guys!
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So after I removed the shifter, I was unable to remove the retainer bolt from either side and stripped the threads. I figure I could go pull one from the junkyard and start over, or so I thought....
I put the shifter back in and when I went to pull away, I couldn't shift into any gear. Here I was last night, in front of the drive way half into the street trying to at least get into neutral. Well after half and hour I realized the forks must be manipulated because it wouldnt even roll down the street; my tranny must have been in a couple gears or something like that. So I called in a tow and she's at the shop right now. I realize how simple it is to remove the top of the tranny, but if I did i still wouldn't know what to do with the forks. So I'll ask the shop to at least get her in gear right, and inspect the forks while they're in there.
I put the shifter back in and when I went to pull away, I couldn't shift into any gear. Here I was last night, in front of the drive way half into the street trying to at least get into neutral. Well after half and hour I realized the forks must be manipulated because it wouldnt even roll down the street; my tranny must have been in a couple gears or something like that. So I called in a tow and she's at the shop right now. I realize how simple it is to remove the top of the tranny, but if I did i still wouldn't know what to do with the forks. So I'll ask the shop to at least get her in gear right, and inspect the forks while they're in there.
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So you took the lid off and now it is stuck in whatever gear? Just remove lid and put sliders in neutral and make sure shifter is in neutral so the forks line up with the sliders. Put lid back on. Once snugged down confirm gears are all there. You can inspect forks since they come off with lid. Easy to replace them, just roll pins holding them on.
If you just pulled shifter off you need to get it back off and line up the notches so the shifter pin engages them properly.
If you just pulled shifter off you need to get it back off and line up the notches so the shifter pin engages them properly.
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So you took the lid off and now it is stuck in whatever gear? Just remove lid and put sliders in neutral and make sure shifter is in neutral so the forks line up with the sliders. Put lid back on. Once snugged down confirm gears are all there. You can inspect forks since they come off with lid. Easy to replace them, just roll pins holding them on.
Right; my problem is not knowing how to line up the pins and such on the lid...
If you just pulled shifter off you need to get it back off and line up the notches so the shifter pin engages them properly.
Right; my problem is not knowing how to line up the pins and such on the lid...
If you just pulled shifter off you need to get it back off and line up the notches so the shifter pin engages them properly.
Also I was blocking by brothers truck in the driveway, and it being my daily driver I had to get it solved.
So it's in the shop now and I'm just going to ask that the shop get it in gear so I can use 1-4th, then go the the yard and grab another shifter, replace the bushing and hope that solves the missing reverse and 5th gear. Otherwise yeah I'll have to pull the cover and get into it.
I should know more by this afternoon...stay tuned
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I didn't take off the top...I went to re-install the shifter with the ****ty bushing and when I did, I must have been in a gear, but after monkeying around with it, I must be in a couple gears as when I push in the clutch it wont roll.
Also I was blocking by brothers truck in the driveway, and it being my daily driver I had to get it solved.
So it's in the shop now and I'm just going to ask that the shop get it in gear so I can use 1-4th, then go the the yard and grab another shifter, replace the bushing and hope that solves the missing reverse and 5th gear. Otherwise yeah I'll have to pull the cover and get into it.
I should know more by this afternoon...stay tuned
Also I was blocking by brothers truck in the driveway, and it being my daily driver I had to get it solved.
So it's in the shop now and I'm just going to ask that the shop get it in gear so I can use 1-4th, then go the the yard and grab another shifter, replace the bushing and hope that solves the missing reverse and 5th gear. Otherwise yeah I'll have to pull the cover and get into it.
I should know more by this afternoon...stay tuned
Says it may not be worth it to investigate further give the age and mileage, also because the repair may go beyond the forks and synchros...well here's where I'm reaching out to this community for sold advise...
I'm on the threshold of a engine swap, and know the m502 would need replaced at some point, so now may be a good opportunity to do so when the engines out soon. Question is where is a reputable place to source a new or rebuilt Mazda tranny? What would I expect to pay?
I'd rather not take the time while my truck is not drivable to take the lid off and make a repair only to have to replace it down the road, just have to move faster to do the swap ya know?
Thanks guys!
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That makes sense. I'll get it towed home, pop open the top and post pics.
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