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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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E4OD Possibly starting in 2nd or 3rd

I am going to try and confirm this today after I get home but I finally went to drive the truck after getting the new engine in it and everything running good on it. I thought it was down on power but after taking it down the street and back last night I think it may be taking off in 2nd. I tried to mash the gas and it didnt do much and didnt downshift either. I suspect its not shifting. Wanted to get some ideas of what to check or look at before I get too crazy. Its a E40D 4x4 truck that I just swapped from a 5.0L to 5.8L. Rebuilt engine, all new stuff on it, got it idling good and engine seems responsive when the gas is pressed, but doesnt seem to want to go like it should. I thought I had a power problem with the engine but that does not appear to be the case. Point me in the right direction. And No I have not run codes yet. Will do that too.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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You'll need to run codes to find out what's wrong.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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Will it actually pull transmission codes on that tranny? I thought the computer didnt control the E4OD which is why I was told I did not need a E4OD specific PCM.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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Will it actually pull transmission codes on that tranny? I thought the computer didnt control the E4OD which is why I was told I did not need a E4OD specific PCM.
Wrong. The computer controls the engine AND the transmission when you have an E4OD.

E4OD= Electronic 4-Speed Overdrive
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 10:59 AM
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Ok.. Maybe I was thinking the other direction. I know I needed a computer from a truck with a E4OD for my swap. I was thinking it was because the others did control the tranny and mine does, but was probably confused. Other way around. I will try to pull codes if I have time tonight and see if anything comes up.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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C6 no, E4OD..yes it's computer controlled. Add 4R70W as electronic controlled too.

C6,AOD and a manual transmission vehicles the computer does not control the transmission.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Ok.. I will try to pull codes. So nothing I can check on this thing to see if there is a reason for it not shifting other than pulling codes? I did a engine swap. Is there a chance a vacuum line or something is not plugged in?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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There is no vacuum connection to the transmission, it's 100% electronic controlled. There are codes triggered if a connection to the control solenoids are bad/missing/etc. That's why it is highly suggested to pull the codes instead of guessing.

The lack of shifting suggests no power to the solenoid pack.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Ok.. Will try to night if I have time. If not I will probably have to do it this weekend.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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Computer has to be from an E4OD truck to work properly. A 4R70W computer will not work properly, nor one from an AOD, C6 or manual truck.

As mentioned, first step is to pull the codes.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:45 PM
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With out ANY computer control, the E4OD will not shift at all, and is in "limp mode" as I recall is 3rd gear(maybe 2nd?).

What year is the truck?
 
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Originally Posted by Eddiec1564
With out ANY computer control, the E4OD will not shift at all, and is in "limp mode" as I recall is 3rd gear(maybe 2nd?).
Fourth gear.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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It is a 1992. I will try to verify that I have the correct computer. It is suppose to be for a 5.8L with E4OD. But there is always a chance it was not correct. I have the original 5.0L computer I could throw in just to verify that it is or is not the computer causing it to not shift.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 07:48 AM
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I dont think it is in 4th gear though. That would be VERY noticeable. I suspect 2nd. That is what it feels like at least. It will go, just feels down on power. If it were in 4th or even 3rd I would think it would barely even gain enough rpm to move on its own. I will try to get codes out of it tomorrow.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Benchwarmers6
If it were in 4th or even 3rd I would think it would barely even gain enough rpm to move on its own.
That's because you don't understand how a torque converter works. No matter what gear the transmission starts in the engine speed will go up when you start to move because of the torque converter. I've driven trucks that start in fourth gear. You can drive it, it's just sluggish to get started from a stop.
 
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