2000 Excursion 2WD
Laughing Gas
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sounds like you are getting trailer sway from wind, lots of things factor into that but a few of them are, differential in square feet of surface area between tow vehicle and trailer, hitch setup, lack of shocks of trailer, trailer tires, tow vehicle tires, tow vehicle shocks.
radius rods
a 4x4 excursion uses a 1/2 leaf spring anti wrap bar to control axle wrap in 4 low or during full throttle acceleration from a stop, the RR are a replacement product that does the same thing. they are not going to help with body roll or trailer sway.
radius rods
a 4x4 excursion uses a 1/2 leaf spring anti wrap bar to control axle wrap in 4 low or during full throttle acceleration from a stop, the RR are a replacement product that does the same thing. they are not going to help with body roll or trailer sway.
Silverfox-on a different note, in addition to the suggestions Tom and pirate have made, you may want to consider Roadmaster Active suspension. It is designed to provide additional stiffening and load capacity of your springs as well as prevent axle wrap which you can read up on on Fordexcursions.com. When Radius rods were out of production, I put this on my X and was very pleased with it. If you look at it, it does make sense as to how it helps with body roll.
Here is a youtube link
Posting Guru
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Will a rear sway bar make a big difference? I have already swapped out the rear leaf springs with 1 ton HD pair. Incredible difference there. But when I tow a 30' 6400lb travel trailer I still get more sway than I prefer. Granted it was extremely windy last time I towed, but it was a pain in the *** getting it down the road.
Be aware that nose weight is important. Can't be too light.
How hard was the 1ton HD pair install ? Where did you get it ? I'd be interested too. Not for sway but more handling. Too soft now.
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Welcome to FTE!.
I will guess in a few months you'll start to get a "clunk" from your front swaybar end links. My theory (for 2WD folks) is the rear swaybar will end up putting more stress on the front swaybar end link and it'll start to clunk (the front is a poor design). I have yet to find a cure, going on 4 years.
I will guess in a few months you'll start to get a "clunk" from your front swaybar end links. My theory (for 2WD folks) is the rear swaybar will end up putting more stress on the front swaybar end link and it'll start to clunk (the front is a poor design). I have yet to find a cure, going on 4 years.
After how many miles are they worn ? What kind of terrain ?
Should not matter on normal roads I think.
This is on a 2wd which I consider better for towing.
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I've never heard anything like that before, either.
Upgraded front and rear bars on everything I've ever owned and have not experienced it, either.
The Hellwig rear bar I added on our 2002 2WD Excursion made a huge difference in body lean since there was none to begin with.
There was a noticeable improvement when I changed the front to the Hellwig bar, too, not near as much, but better.
The front still has the factory end links and at 110k no clunk.
I had a front end clunk, but that went away when I changed the tie rod ends.
The front end link bushings are the factory rubber ones.
I'll change those out to polyurethane when I get some time to figure it out.
After new F-250 rear springs and shocks it handles great.
Upgraded front and rear bars on everything I've ever owned and have not experienced it, either.
The Hellwig rear bar I added on our 2002 2WD Excursion made a huge difference in body lean since there was none to begin with.
There was a noticeable improvement when I changed the front to the Hellwig bar, too, not near as much, but better.
The front still has the factory end links and at 110k no clunk.
I had a front end clunk, but that went away when I changed the tie rod ends.
The front end link bushings are the factory rubber ones.
I'll change those out to polyurethane when I get some time to figure it out.
After new F-250 rear springs and shocks it handles great.
I couldn't find any when I changed mine out. Put in stock ones.
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Guess we will have to agree to disagree pirate. Vector forces from the directional change of a heavy trailer subject the rear axle to torque and thus complicate handling. The snubber bar on the bottom of the springs is for acceleration and only engages after the axles torques. It does nothing to prohibit the movement in the first place and is almost totally useless. That's where I come from and we don't have to get into philosophy. I understand the logic by which you reached your conclusion as well.
Silverfox-on a different note, in addition to the suggestions Tom and pirate have made, you may want to consider Roadmaster Active suspension. It is designed to provide additional stiffening and load capacity of your springs as well as prevent axle wrap which you can read up on on Fordexcursions.com. When Radius rods were out of production, I put this on my X and was very pleased with it. If you look at it, it does make sense as to how it helps with body roll.
Here is a youtube link Roadmaster Active Suspension in ACTION! - YouTube
Silverfox-on a different note, in addition to the suggestions Tom and pirate have made, you may want to consider Roadmaster Active suspension. It is designed to provide additional stiffening and load capacity of your springs as well as prevent axle wrap which you can read up on on Fordexcursions.com. When Radius rods were out of production, I put this on my X and was very pleased with it. If you look at it, it does make sense as to how it helps with body roll.
Here is a youtube link Roadmaster Active Suspension in ACTION! - YouTube
Laughing Gas
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When I changed mine I looked as well. IIRC front on 2wd are 34mm and nobody seems to make them or at least I couldn't find any.
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A sway bar helped my 2wd quite a bit ( a noticeable and satisfying amount). I got mine out of the 04 6.0 in my sig. I put a new bushing kit in while it was out.
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I went with the Moog K80203 had to trim them down a bit to fit
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When I replaced the front bar with a Hellwig it came with polyurethane frame bushings and reused the stock end links.
I'm looking for 2wd poly front end link bushings.
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End link bushings and also frame bushings.
Lead Driver
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a directional change from a trailer or any other load will exert a compression or tension force not a rotational force. the rotational force or amount of torque that is applied to the axle is a result of power applied at the pinion and available traction.
but let's go along with that videos marketing gibberish, what do you think that coil spring is doing exactly ? other then being an expensive anti wrap device ?
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