Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

need help diagnosing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 11:35 AM
  #1  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
need help diagnosing

So usually when its hot my excursion idles wierd. It will idle like 1000 rpm then fall n it will b all over the place but it doesnt do it consistently. Sometimes not for a couple days. Sometimes when im at a red ligh on the brake it will idle up n wanna pull . Also if i get on it n floor it it will take off then kind of hesitate at high rpm. my edge showed a code for cylinder 5 but the shop hooked it up to computer n injecters tested fine. N then somedays it jus runs perfect. So all n any help or input will be greatly appreciated.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 01:37 PM
  #2  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,055
Likes: 235
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
you need gauges to see what Value changes when this Happens
Could be Sensor turbo HPO system


When was the Last fuel filters done
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 02:08 PM
  #3  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
Filters done 5000 miles ago. N do have gauges
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 02:35 PM
  #4  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
Benny is talking live data gauges. ICP IPR MAF VGT IAT IAT2 EOT ECT
and a few others.

When I have some time later tonight I can pull the PC/ED book and look
at the testing that needs to be done if I can find a problem that matches
what you telling us. But please keep posting about what you have done and
found. The more info the better the chance of finding a fix.



Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 06:05 PM
  #5  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
Yea i have n edge insight. Every once in awhile on cold start ficm will b low 40s til i start driving then its fine. Also at wot ipr will b 90 % but icp is only low 2000s. Anything else to look for?
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:33 PM
  #6  
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 12
From: BC Canada
You need a new FICM, if it is running less than 45 volts, when cold, call Ed at FICMRepair. It's possible there are other issues but I would start with that. This likely what is messing things up and why it is intermittent.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:46 PM
  #7  
m-chan68's Avatar
m-chan68
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,504
Likes: 256
From: Woodbridge, Ontario, CA
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by jbrax
Yea i have n edge insight. Every once in awhile on cold start ficm will b low 40s til i start driving then its fine. Also at wot ipr will b 90 % but icp is only low 2000s. Anything else to look for?
I agree. Your FICM is in need of replacement or repair. Also, what is your ICP DESIRED data, compared to your ICP ACTUAL under the exact condition you've described above? That almost sounds like your HPOP is weak as well by the numbers given.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:47 PM
  #8  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,055
Likes: 235
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
But it Looks like you need a FICM and HPO Work and maybe alt or Batterys but lets see what it shows
your numbers were not tested correct Im talking HPO numbers

Take the HPO numbers with hot truck A/C off in Park
for ICP and IPR%


a Reading for both at Idle
ALSO
A reading for BOTH at 2500rpm


Do the same for FICM except Cold Truck
same at Idle and 2500rpm Get
FICM MP
FICM LP
FICM VP
VOLTS
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 07:50 PM
  #9  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,055
Likes: 235
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
He may have a Bad ICP sensor


so post ICPV @ KOEO
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:01 PM
  #10  
white Buffalo's Avatar
white Buffalo
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 6
From: Sioux Falls, SD
Originally Posted by BLADE35


Do the same for FICM except Cold Truck
same at Idle and 2500rpm Get
FICM main volts
FICM logic bolts
FICM Vehicle volts
Battery Volts
If you can data log with the edge - you can e-mail me the file and we'll graph it up to get a clear picture:


 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:02 PM
  #11  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
When its hot and in park and it start idling iratic . Ipr will creep up too at its highest like 35% while icp will be in the 600 n sometimes drop into 500s
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:04 PM
  #12  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
@ 2500 rpm its around 50% and around 1600psi
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:12 PM
  #13  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,055
Likes: 235
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
Originally Posted by jbrax
@ 2500 rpm its around 50% and around 1600psi


you have HPO Problems NO Doubt


So check ICPV at KOEO (Key On Engine Off)


HOPE its in the .18-.24V range
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:23 PM
  #14  
jbrax's Avatar
jbrax
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: harrisburg
Icp voltage says .2. I never did data logging on this edge yet. So let me look and see if i can figure it out. If not tonight thrn ill do it tomorro. Sorry, tired of banging my head off of this thing for the past 2 weeks with no luck whats going on. Thanks for all the help so far.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2016 | 08:56 PM
  #15  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,055
Likes: 235
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
.2v shows good sensor


your HPOP is weak




your doing all this testing in stock mode right


for best diag truck must NOT be Tuned or as close to stock as possible
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:51 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE