Okay everyone so I have a 2005 F350 Dually 4x4 truck. I was planning to run 35x12.5x17 tires on my stock 17" rims. I know they are not the rims you would normally do that with but that is okay. I have a issue!

Today I picked up 2" 8x200 spacers from a local guy on CL who ran them on his 2005 F350 with 315 tires and no issues.

Well my problem, I went to the shop not far from where I bought the spacers not that it matters but when they put the inner wheel/tire on and tried to put the spacer on my lug studs are almost 1/4" too long. Which means if i install my outer wheel the lug studs will hit my wheels and not get the correct fit. Having talked to a few people I know they said that should not be the case!

I have HC (Hub Centric) I think, setup so that is what I bought but why would the spacers not work when everyone I have talked to doesn't have the same problem? Is it my lug studs were they changed out at a certain year for longer ones for some reason?

I have photos I just wanted to get this thread started to ask questions and if you all want photos I will post. Right now I'm stuck with my outer rims on with the 35" tires and not going to drive the truck until I figure this out. I know I can just order a 1/4" spacer to add to what I already have but I'm wondering why I'm having this issue and if anyone else has experienced the same?

 

Any thoughts anyone?

 

Very strange. Maybe try and call fred from wheeladapter.com and run it by him. Im baffled. You shouldn't need to run another 1/4 spacer to clear them.

 

Yes, you may be right and now that I measured the spacers and being HC spacers I'm finding out the thickest part is not exactly 2". So either I got shorted on the spacers or it's the way they are designed. Perhaps I didn't get spacers that were exact to what I needed but they were used and I didn't have options.

I can call Fred and ask to see what he says.

 

All factory wheels for super duties are hub centric at least to my knowledge. The lug nuts will be flat where they contact the wheel and the hub actually centers the wheel. Where as lug centric wheels basically all aftermarket wheels the lug nuts are rounded where they contact the wheels and the the lug nuts center the wheel. I have seen spacers where you have to cut the studs off a little for them not to contact the wheel. For what your trying to do I think you need spacers like these just using them as a reference with the small ridge that the wheel rides on which take place of the hub to center the wheel. I'm by no means an expert on spacers but I know the good ones are spendy. If they are 2in spacers they should be 2 in thick though.

 

Here is my setup

 

I measured the spacers so they are off 1/4" I couldn't order a 1/4" set to add to huh? Reason for that would be because adding more would eliminate that lip to center wheel?

 

Doesn't the spacer go between the wheels? Not directly on the hub, it's meant to space between the tires so they don't rub together. If you add in the thickness of the inner steel wheel won't the studs fit?

Edit: Nevermind, I can read and saw the post after the pics. I see the 1/4" gap now.

Punch out the studs and install the shorter SRW ones? You can order them separately from the hub bearings.

 

Yes that same gap/lip is on my hub as you see in photo and then again on spacer. So I think I'm led to believe the only way I'm gonna make this work is having to buy the 2" full 2", HC spacer and not this. Lesson learned and I got had on these ones but at least it was $120 and maybe I can make my money back or some by selling.

I'm pissed but certainly just as much my fault. Now I need to price out brand new HC 2" full spacers and like I said new not used so I don't run I to this issue.

 

Can anyone confirm also, i have read that the installation of HC spacers on duallys require taking stuff apart, that they won't just slide on? they appear to in this pic, but i've read before that people that have Fred's wheels spacers from wheeladapter.com have to take apart the hub to get the spacer past that little lip on the outside of the hub. doesn't seem to be true in this pic.

i have 2" non HC spacers on my dually, and i've just emailed the guy i got them from, because i want HC. i originally ordered HC and he sent non HC because of what i said above, he said they won't slide over the little lip. He must be mistaken, so i attached Irish's pic to show him.

 

Question will be does your hub have the lip? If so then all that means is the HC spacers has a diameter opening large enough to fit snug on the lip which means HC. And of course the spacers will then have HC ends on the end to attach outer wheel so that it remains HC setup.

 

My stock rear hub. Don't mind the drawing on the 2nd pic.

 

The photo that you have arrows pointing at isn't the HC or lip it's the area sitting behind that near studs that little lip/hump. If the spacer rides on that it's considered HC. And then when you have the spacers like in my photo you will notice the same lip on spacers which is where rim is centered on to keep it from being tested on lugs

 

The photo that you have arrows pointing at isn't the HC or lip it's the area sitting behind that near studs that little lip/hump. If the spacer rides on that it's considered HC. And then when you have the spacers like in my photo you will notice the same lip on spacers which is where rim is centered on to keep it from being rested on lugs.

So in your case your spacers rest on the lip of hub but your outer rim rests on the lugs instead of where it should be resting on the spacer if that makes sense.

 

Here is a dumb question, so okay my hubs or all Dually hubs are considered Hub Centric. That just means you can center the rim onto hub so it's not I guess resting on studs but rather that lip.

Why do they sell them the spacers that don't have that lip?

Lip meaning HC style

Also, most vehicles are not Hub Centric so why would it really matter that my rim be installed HC spacer style wouldn't it be just as effective to install it without as with it? I can see the added benefit to doing it HC setup but for safety reasons I honestly don't get the reason because 90% of all cars don't have HC setups. Is it because of the towing or hauling weight and they wanted (Ford engineers) to make sure weight was distributed on the axle hub and not lug studs?

I can order spacers 2" without that HC setup for outer wheel for almost half the cost of one's that are HC setup so if that is the case and they cab be used no mater the difference I might just go that route