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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kristofferson
Thanks for the tip, Rich - I think the date might be on the right hand side of the sticker, and unfortunately that half of the sticker is worn off/gone, lol.

I'll keep looking around to see if I can find a casting number on it or something. Maybe I can narrow it down that way.

Anyway, on a side note, my local AutoZone hasn't been very helpful. When I was younger, the guys behind the counter could answer most questions. But at this store, I'm not sure you have to know anything about cars in order to get hired. When I ask (what I think are more basic questions) I often get the "deer in the headlights" look back. Also, when I mentioned above the example of "hey, I'm looking in my computer and a 71 F100 didn't come with a 351W...", that's why I was asking if anyone here happened to know what other car/truck model/years might have come with a 351W, so I can just tell the guy behind the counter where to look so to where it will show up in his computer. (It's almost like they can't think outside of what the computer shows them). I think there's a NAPA and an Advance Auto nearby, maybe I'll try them instead to see if this AutoZone is an anomaly, hopefully that's the case and not an indication that the times have changed...

That won't happen.


It'll require a bit more homework on your end to figure out what year and model came with a 351W that closely matches your engine - then use that spec as the basis from which to order parts. For example, ya might end up specifying a 69 Torino which I recall was offered with a 351W as were other models into the 70s.


According to web resources, the 351W was offered in one configuration or another until 1996.... carbureted up to and including 1985 and EFI'ed from 86 to 96.


Here's info on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windsor_engine
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
That won't happen.


It'll require a bit more homework on your end to figure out what year and model came with a 351W that closely matches your engine - then use that spec as the basis from which to order parts. For example, ya might end up specifying a 69 Torino which I recall was offered with a 351W as were other models into the 70s.


According to web resources, the 351W was offered in one configuration or another until 1996.... carbureted up to and including 1985 and EFI'ed from 86 to 96.


Here's info on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windsor_engine
Excellent - very helpful! Thanks -- for grins, I'll post what I end up finding out for the "Mystery Engine"
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
That won't happen.


It'll require a bit more homework on your end to figure out what year and model came with a 351W that closely matches your engine - then use that spec as the basis from which to order parts. For example, ya might end up specifying a 69 Torino which I recall was offered with a 351W as were other models into the 70s.


According to web resources, the 351W was offered in one configuration or another until 1996.... carbureted up to and including 1985 and EFI'ed from 86 to 96.


Here's info on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windsor_engine
So, you were spot on... I looked up the 69 Torino, and it says one of the options was a 351W / 5.8L. So it sounds like I just tell the parts guys I have a 69 Torino? (lol)
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristofferson
So, you were spot on... I looked up the 69 Torino, and it says one of the options was a 351W / 5.8L. So it sounds like I just tell the parts guys I have a 69 Torino? (lol)

Maybe.


There were minor changes over the years that may affect part applications... Plus your engine label states "EGR, Catalyst, PVC" so logically the engine (or perhaps just the valve covers!) came from when cat converters were required... Furthermore, part of the label refers to single tank and dual fuel tanks... that would lead me to postulate the engine came from an 80s F-series truck/Bronco or Econoline.


Again, more sleuthing on your part is needed to narrow down your engine donor.... What years were carbureted 351Ws offered in F-trucks/Broncos/Econolines? Which models were offered with dual tanks?


But we're still missing the pertinent info ..... is it a 351W or a 302?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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Remove the starter and look at the casting date on the side of the block.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristofferson
Hi all,
I'm a new guy and recently got a 71 F100 2WD and am just starting to learn how to work on it and get it running. First things first, was trying to determine the engine so I know what belts to buy, fuel pump, etc. I did the VIN decoder which said 302 V8, but there's a "vehicle emission control information" sticker on the engine that says this... (see pic)

Is this saying it's a 5.8W (351W)? I'm not familiar with these stickers.
The dizzy with the male ends was introduced in 1978, Ford didn't begin using liter designations for engines until 1980.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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This is a photo example of an early '80s Mustang (dual snorkel) air cleaner. In 1981, my best friend bought a 1978 Ford Futura, in stone stock condition, from the original owner. The factory (single snorkle) '78 aluminum air cleaner lid had the nomenclature of, "5.0 Liter" written on it in this exact same font type --without the "4V H.O." designation on it.

 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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.. distributors can be swapped.
 
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
This is a photo example of an early '80s Mustang (dual snorkel) air cleaner. In 1981, my best friend bought a 1978 Ford Futura, in stone stock condition, from the original owner. The factory (single snorkle) '78 aluminum air cleaner lid had the nomenclature of, "5.0 Litre" written on it in this exact same font type --without the "4V H.O." designation on it.

Exactly, here it is in print:

http://fzbooks.150m.com/78FuturaBrochure06.html
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The dizzy with the male ends was introduced in 1978, Ford didn't begin using liter designations for engines until 1980.
Actually ND, 351M/400's got theirs in 77 as that was what my 77 F-150 had.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
This is a photo example of an early '80s Mustang (dual snorkel) air cleaner. In 1981, my best friend bought a 1978 Ford Futura, in stone stock condition, from the original owner. The factory (single snorkle) '78 aluminum air cleaner lid had the nomenclature of, "5.0 Litre" written on it in this exact same font type --without the "4V H.O." designation on it.

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Actually ND, 351M/400's got theirs in 77 as that was what my 77 F-150 had.
How dare you question NUmbersDummy!

See, contrary to what the Master Parts Catalog says, hell does freeze over.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 07:07 AM
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Chilton shows a"H" code 351W was in the 75 -79 trucks. A "G" code was in the 80 trucks. A "W" code was in the 81 & 82 trucks. Then the 83, 84, 85, 86 years had "G" code in them. (Of course the codes were from the VIN plates)
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
How dare you question NUmbersDummy!

See, contrary to what the Master Parts Catalog says, hell does freeze over.
MPC's can say all they want. I know that they don't always tell the FULL story and I know, unequivocally, that my friend's 1978 Futura had the words, "5.0 Liter" written on the factory air cleaner lid. 1978 was definitely before the 1980s.

A MPC is not always the gospel of what was or what is.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
MPC's can say all they want. I know that they don't always tell the FULL story and I know, unequivocally, that my friend's 1978 Futura had the words, "5.0 Liter" written on the factory air cleaner lid. 1978 was definitely before the 1980s.

A MPC is not always the gospel of what was or what is.

Yeah, I was BEING REALLY SARCASTIC in my post above.


I HIGHLY doubt that he will post back to acknowledge your information... has never done so under identical circumstances. Then again, hell might freeze over again.


"To err is human"... unless you're a retired parts guy and in one's own mind can walk on water.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RichS2659
Actually ND, 351M/400's got theirs in 77 as that was what my 77 F-150 had.
1977 is correct, 1978 was a "typo."

Label posted in post #21 only one shown in the 1980/89 parts catalog.

Originally Posted by GaryKip
Chilton shows an "H" code was in the 1975/79 trucks.
1975/79: Only Econolines had the 351W, F150/350's didn't get it until 1981.
 
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