OK apparently I need some help here.

1997 F-350 4x4 Crew cab 7.3 Tried to get the front hub off no luck. Looked on youtube, searched this site, no luck looked at all the confusing info on pirate4x4 Dieselstop, no luck.

I have a cracked rotor that I need to replace. Searched all the parts stores in Phoenix for the right socket.
Bought 2 lock nut sockets no luck. What am I missing? anybody here know what I need to do this?
frustrating to say the least. Is there a video or pictures of the steps I need to take that is vehicle specific? Any help much appreciated.

 

Do you have manual locking hubs or automatic hubs?

 

r59,

It's a four prong socket you are looking for. You will need to take off the locking hub, remove the clip holding the inner part of the locking hub, then use the four prong socket to get the first nut off. After you get the first nut off, you need to take the washer off, then the second nut. After taking the caliper off, you should be able to pull the hub and rotor off. It should be about a 2 1/2" four prong socket. Hope this helps.

Red

 

If he has automatic hubs, it won't be the spanner nut with the four notches. It will be a hex nut. The spanner nut with the four notches is for manual hubs.

 

Bill,

I keep forgetting about the auto hubs. Thanks for the reminder.

Red

 

.........I hope I didn't sound like I was correcting you LOL! Didn't mean that at all. Just wondering which one he was dealing with.

 

Bill,

No worries.

Red

 

I have a 95 f250 4x4 and I just did rotors and pads. People at the auto parts store said it was a four prong tool I needed. They were wrong. Mine has a single 2.5 inch nut and a half moon clip to lock the nut. I bought a set of axle nut sockets from Napa. Hope this helps.

 

I forgot to add mine has manual hubs.

 

Thanks guys. Sorry it is manual locking hubs. I found the number from

http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949...e=stjs53cr.htm.

shows D85T-1197-A for the tool. can't seem to find that anywhere

Thanks Red, I just might have the correct socket from Napa. I think I missed the lock ring just not sure, hard to tell from the exploded view. Thank you I have a look and let you know. Not sure when I can get a look at it spent all weekend on it Dang!

 

It probably had auto hubs at one time, and some one put the manual hubs on it. You should change the spindle nuts to the spanner nuts with the lock ring. It will mess up the springs in the hubs with that style nut in there.

 

ReBilld where can I get the correct spanner nuts?

 

Most parts stores should have them or be able to order them.

 

I'll call Napa tomorrow thanks

 

This threw me for a loop too when I did ball joints on my truck recently. To my knowledge are two different style axle nuts, four prong and rounded hex, and different sizes for the various axle types, Dana 44, 50, 60. I believe the correct sizes for the OBS F350 Dana 60 are: 2 1/2 inch four prong for the manual hubs, 2 3/4 inch rounded hex for the automatic hubs (someone correct me if I am wrong). What was really confusing for me is my truck had manual hubs, but it had the automatic hub nubs. The truck had the auto hubs from the factory, but the original owner swapped them for manual hubs apparently without swapping the nuts.

Here are the two different style sockets:





Manual hub socket on left, auto hub socket on right

Here's a close up up the sizes:





Here's the auto hub not with c-shaped lock ring:





Got to make sure the lock tab on the lock ring is not broken and is inserted properly in the slots



Manual on left, auto on right

I swapped back to the manual hub locking nut set when I replaced the ball joints. Did not take a picture but here's a link to a set on O'Reilly's website:
Dorman AutoGrade 05303 - Spindle Nut Kit 4X4 | O'Reilly Auto Parts

You torque the inner nut to the correct spec, put on the middle lock right with the tab inserted, then torque the outer nut against the inner nut and lock ring assembly.

My F150 with the Dana 44 was the same way, had the manual hubs but ended up having the axle nuts that typically go with the automatic hubs.