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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Oh and p.s. thank you for the help guys
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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[QUOTE=boggerted;16127103]Id pull pan and make sure the filter didnt fall down. If the pump is not picking up fluid while running it will most likely show overfull on stick which you said was the case. If the filter was not swapped out to the revised design with the deeper pickup and filter can fall out of the pump and no fluid=no go[/QUOTE
I wish that was the case but I did replace the filter and gasket and fluid
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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Sounds like you eliminated every possible outside cause. I'm not a trany expert but these have had their share of problems. Looks like its has to come out. Rebuilts are best but very expensive. What I have done is buy a used gasser e40d there are many, diesels are hard to find. I have an e40d rebuild video and book I got on ebay. Take them apart carefully and put the pieces in order ,(you should eventually find the failure) and carefully put the gasser guts in the diesel housing. You need to reuses the diesel torque converter. Other than the converter the parts are interchangeable, there have been updates and modifications but bottom line just for a daily driver this will work. Mite not be the best route for pulling or severe duty
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by farmnfly
Sounds like you eliminated every possible outside cause. I'm not a trany expert but these have had their share of problems. Looks like its has to come out. Rebuilts are best but very expensive. What I have done is buy a used gasser e40d there are many, diesels are hard to find. I have an e40d rebuild video and book I got on ebay. Take them apart carefully and put the pieces in order ,(you should eventually find the failure) and carefully put the gasser guts in the diesel housing. You need to reuses the diesel torque converter. Other than the converter the parts are interchangeable, there have been updates and modifications but bottom line just for a daily driver this will work. Mite not be the best route for pulling or severe duty
Ok thanks for the reply I think I'm gonna try to pull it out Thursday and dig into it to see what failed it was so weird how it spontaneously just gave out no signs or warning 55mph to 0 out of nowhere
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by farmnfly
Sounds like you eliminated every possible outside cause. I'm not a trany expert but these have had their share of problems. Looks like its has to come out. Rebuilts are best but very expensive. What I have done is buy a used gasser e40d there are many, diesels are hard to find. I have an e40d rebuild video and book I got on ebay. Take them apart carefully and put the pieces in order ,(you should eventually find the failure) and carefully put the gasser guts in the diesel housing. You need to reuses the diesel torque converter. Other than the converter the parts are interchangeable, there have been updates and modifications but bottom line just for a daily driver this will work. Mite not be the best route for pulling or severe duty
Ok thanks for the reply I think I'm gonna try to pull it out Thursday and dig into it to see what failed it was so weird how it spontaneously just gave out no signs or warning 55mph to 0 out of nowhere
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boggerted
Id pull pan and make sure the filter didnt fall down. If the pump is not picking up fluid while running it will most likely show overfull on stick which you said was the case. If the filter was not swapped out to the revised design with the deeper pickup and filter can fall out of the pump and no fluid=no go
He said it was blowing fluid out of the cooler line. So I know the filter is in place and is the correct one. This is just a waste of time and effort. It won't help at all.

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Ok yeah I tried 4x4 still no movement all linkages are hooked up so as for the internals do you think it could be inputs haft or planetary gear?
Yes, it could be. Or a broken weld on a sun gear, or a few other things, too.

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Oh and yes it holds in park
Then the transfer case isn't the problem. This transmission is done. Stick a fork in it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
This transmission is done. Stick a fork in it.
Wait, the fork goes in the bellhousing on a manual...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Wait, the fork goes in the bellhousing on a manual...
Have you guys ever taken tcase and trans out at same time or should I split them under truck?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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I always take the t case off. its hard enough to balance the trany without it. Six bolts and some linkage
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by farmnfly
I always take the t case off. its hard enough to balance the trany without it. Six bolts and some linkage
Well boys I got her off teardown soon
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by boggerted
Id pull pan and make sure the filter didnt fall down. If the pump is not picking up fluid while running it will most likely show overfull on stick which you said was the case. If the filter was not swapped out to the revised design with the deeper pickup and filter can fall out of the pump and no fluid=no go
Mark please help me I'm begging you what could cause an e40d that looks super clean and never abused lose all gears I've got the trans out and checked as far back as the front planetary it looks like it was rebuildt yesterday it looks too clean minimal wear plz help me input shaft and planetary are good
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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You need to take it all the way down. I've seen sun gear welds break from the shell they are attached to. You need to look close to see this. If you only checked the front planetary you need to remove the rest and check that, too.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You need to take it all the way down. I've seen sun gear welds break from the shell they are attached to. You need to look close to see this. If you only checked the front planetary you need to remove the rest and check that, too.
Ok mark so I got it all out and sungears planetarys and clutches look brand new not burned or anything nice light brown clutches still have plenty of material left only thing left on casing Is reverse clutches as I have to take off overdrive housing and remove bolts to check the clutches for reverse any ideas?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 12:50 AM
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Ok mark so I got it all out and sungears planetarys and clutches look brand new not burned or anything nice light brown clutches still have plenty of material left only thing left on casing Is reverse clutches as I have to take off overdrive housing and remove bolts to check the clutches for reverse any ideas?




























 
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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Ok mark so I got it all out and sungears planetarys and clutches look brand new not burned or anything nice light brown clutches still have plenty of material left only thing left on casing Is reverse clutches as I have to take off overdrive housing and remove bolts to check the clutches for reverse any ideas?
When it didn't move did you try the 1 and 2 position? If it moved there the problem is a failed (or installed backwards) overdrive one way clutch.
 
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