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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 05:27 PM
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AC help

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I have a 92 F350 Crew Cab Dually with the lovely 7.3L IDI. I've had it for about 4 years and the AC has never worked. I had it charged and checked 2 years ago, and it's blowing freon out of the blow off valve, which isn't actually part of the compressor. It's on a metal plate that bolts to the compressor, where the lines come in and out of the compressor to the rest of the AC system. I can't find that plate anywhere. Please help! I'm tired of burning up when it's gets hot outside. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 06:00 PM
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You sure its not just an 0-ring or two?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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No, I physically watched it seep out of that valve.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 01:25 AM
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Was it losing refrigerant out of the valve while sitting? Or while the a/c-a/c compressor was running? If while sitting the valve is shot..might be able to find one in a junkyard.. many 80's and early 90's ford's with the FS6 compressor have them. If while running you may have a blocked condenser, or orifice tube, causing the discharge pressure to go sky high and the blow off valve is dumping refrigerant..if running r134a I would suggest replacing that valve with a high pressure cut off switch. Would just turn off the compressor in a high pressure situation.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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The valve is available, I forgot were I got it from. The plate itself is junkyard. I think I pulled mine off a small Bronco. The other plate is available.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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It would take about 20 seconds after the compressor kicked in before it starts leaking. If anyone remembers where to find that valve, I'd appreciate it. Also, please tell me more about this high pressure switch.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 09:48 AM
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I had the availability of the plates backwards.

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the plate is part # yf1264
the vale is f65z19d644a

the switch is on the receiver dryer and is available at local parts stores there are two one for r12 and one for r134. even though my system has been converted it still uses r12 parts.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Thanks. I like having air conditioning.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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Did you have gauges hooked up to the AC system to check the high side pressure? If there is some sort of blockage in the condenser a new valve may not fix the problem..but since the valve is suspect, and reasonably priced for a new one, replace it...if you're having an AC shop recharge your system, have them flush it, if not already done, and replace orifice tube ($2 part) if not already done before vacuuming and recharging the system. I would also replace the accumulator as well if it's old. Tell them the problem you are having so they can diagnose and repair it correctly..
 
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Originally Posted by mebe2k
Did you have gauges hooked up to the AC system to check the high side pressure? If there is some sort of blockage in the condenser a new valve may not fix the problem..but since the valve is suspect, and reasonably priced for a new one, replace it...if you're having an AC shop recharge your system, have them flush it, if not already done, and replace orifice tube ($2 part) if not already done before vacuuming and recharging the system. I would also replace the accumulator as well if it's old. Tell them the problem you are having so they can diagnose and repair it correctly..
How much should I expect to pay for all these things? I know an AC flush is rather inexpensive, but can I replace the parts myself to save money?
 
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How much should I expect to pay for all these things? I know an AC flush is rather inexpensive, but can I replace the parts myself to save money?
That depends on several things: Do you have A/C knowledge and know how the system should operated and what pressures, how much to service? Do you have a set of gauges and a vacuum pump? If no then you maybe better off to pay some one. A/C work can get expensive real fast.
 
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How much should I expect to pay for all these things? I know an AC flush is rather inexpensive, but can I replace the parts myself to save money?
The orifice tube is cheap at around $2.00.. the accumulator should run $25-$50, a new condenser if needed maybe $80-$200 depending on where you find them..all of these you can replace yourself.. accumulator and orifice tube need to be replaced after flushing.. condenser if it's clogged might be fixed by flushing..I don't know if they still used the old fin & tube condenser in 92.
 
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The orifice tube is cheap at around $2.00.. the accumulator should run $25-$50, a new condenser if needed maybe $80-$200 depending on where you find them..all of these you can replace yourself.. accumulator and orifice tube need to be replaced after flushing.. condenser if it's clogged might be fixed by flushing..I don't know if they still used the old fin & tube condenser in 92.
Thanks everyone.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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The orifice tube is cheap at around $2.00.. the accumulator should run $25-$50, a new condenser if needed maybe $80-$200 depending on where you find them..all of these you can replace yourself.. accumulator and orifice tube need to be replaced after flushing.. condenser if it's clogged might be fixed by flushing..I don't know if they still used the old fin & tube condenser in 92.
Even the trucks from the 80s were serpentine (which is better than plain tube and fin). No matter what, you should replace the dryer if you replace the orifice tube. The desiccant saturates with water over time and looses effectiveness. Despite what most people say, I'd contend that AC work is pretty easy, though you are looking at several hundred dollars in initial investment to be able to work on a system. For me, I replaced the entire AC system on my 86 with new parts (save for that one block you are talking about). I even changed to a parallel flow condenser and made my own tubing to replace it. 1986 truck running R134 and 105* outside in the central valley and I had it literally frigid in my truck (seriously like 60*). A little reading and thought and AC is easy.
 
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