30mm vs Hellwig sway bar (Hellwig Installed Update)
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Sous, are you sure about that measurement? Hellwig still claims it's 1 and 5/16". I would think they'd err on the side of large...
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Don't feel too bad about the wimpy stock swaybar - my F-250 didn't even have one.......
whats next for the suspension Sous?
Firestone riderite air bags?
2000 Ford F250 Firestone Air Bags | SuspensionConnection.com
whats next for the suspension Sous?
Firestone riderite air bags?
2000 Ford F250 Firestone Air Bags | SuspensionConnection.com
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Walt, I am sure. I took a piece of somewhat rigid wire and wrapped it around the pipe and marked with a Sharpie where they met. I did this twice and received the same measurement each time at dead on 1.5".
White Buffalo, next in line is Bilstein 4600's all around, then either OUO or PMF traction bars. I am waiting to hear how the PMF bars perform during heavy towing from another FTE member. Although, I have not heard anything from Trevor at PMF in regards to my questions I sent him. The OUO come in at $350 more in the configuration I want shipped, so it is quite a bit more but might be worth it in the end.
Then finally I will finish up with air bags (Air Lift or Firestone) prior to purchasing a 5th wheel trailer to replace our travel trailer. Have not decided if I want to get the on board compressor, or if I will just install some valves for filling.
White Buffalo, next in line is Bilstein 4600's all around, then either OUO or PMF traction bars. I am waiting to hear how the PMF bars perform during heavy towing from another FTE member. Although, I have not heard anything from Trevor at PMF in regards to my questions I sent him. The OUO come in at $350 more in the configuration I want shipped, so it is quite a bit more but might be worth it in the end.
Then finally I will finish up with air bags (Air Lift or Firestone) prior to purchasing a 5th wheel trailer to replace our travel trailer. Have not decided if I want to get the on board compressor, or if I will just install some valves for filling.
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I really like the on board compressor. Simply because:
I leave the house with the 5th wheel with the pressure all set at 30-35 lbs and all is good. Get to the campground, set up and all is good. leave the campground and have to drop the pressure to 5-10lbs. Then I can set the pressure back to 30 without having to find a gas station with a working compressor to get her back up again.
Then on longer road trips when I experience different highway conditions I can adjust the ride on the fly..........
Similiar to having to pull over & switching the the tunes via a programmer compared to switching on the fly via a chip.
I leave the house with the 5th wheel with the pressure all set at 30-35 lbs and all is good. Get to the campground, set up and all is good. leave the campground and have to drop the pressure to 5-10lbs. Then I can set the pressure back to 30 without having to find a gas station with a working compressor to get her back up again.
Then on longer road trips when I experience different highway conditions I can adjust the ride on the fly..........
Similiar to having to pull over & switching the the tunes via a programmer compared to switching on the fly via a chip.
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I use one of these to air up the bags. Works great and employs the KISS principle. If you're buying bags, one significant benefit to the Airlift is the internal snubber allowing you to run zero air pressure. Makes life a little easier when deflating not trying to keep 5-10 psi.
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You have to use calipers or an open end wrench to fit across the diameter.
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Walt, I understand the difference between circumference and diameter, but aside from cutting the bar in half and then measuring the diameter, I had no other way to measure it. This is a good and true method of measuring diameter if done correctly. For example, when measuring the intercooler when replacing the boots you must get the outside diameter of the inlet and outlet to make sure you are getting the right size boots from RiffRaff.
I can use a caliper after I return home and borrow one, but it will come out at 1.5", I can assure you that. Perhaps my description of how I took the measurement was not detailed enough and lead you down a stray path of thought.
When taking the diameter measurement the circumference would come to a total of just short of 4.75". The difference between 1.5" and 4.75" is dramatic and clearly not in the same ballpark.
I can use a caliper after I return home and borrow one, but it will come out at 1.5", I can assure you that. Perhaps my description of how I took the measurement was not detailed enough and lead you down a stray path of thought.
When taking the diameter measurement the circumference would come to a total of just short of 4.75". The difference between 1.5" and 4.75" is dramatic and clearly not in the same ballpark.
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Today we towed our 30ft travel trailer 300 miles and the Hellwig sway bar made a noticeable difference opposed to the OEM bar. I would say that I am very happy with the changes for $250, but could not see paying much more than $300 or so for it.
Don't get me wrong, there was still some sway when a semi went by at a much higher rate of speed than I was traveling, but I am satisfied with the purchase and the short time it took to install the bar. My thoughts on the bars performance with the trailer not attached are above.
Don't get me wrong, there was still some sway when a semi went by at a much higher rate of speed than I was traveling, but I am satisfied with the purchase and the short time it took to install the bar. My thoughts on the bars performance with the trailer not attached are above.
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