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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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Cruise control problems

The truck is a 2000 f250 sd with the v10. I have already replaced the cancel switch and the fuse in the jumper, and I have replaced the switches in the steering wheel. I tried to do the diagnostic mode but it will not even flash the cruise light then. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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Did you hotwire the pressure switch on the bottom of the master cylinder?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:01 PM
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I did, same result no light on the dash and not working
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 10:50 PM
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Barnesrr, I'm having same issues. I had dealership replace brake pressure switch, I had. New steering wheel switches put in and replaced the servo from a junk yard. So far they have ran diagnostics and come back to a servo issue each time. The local dealership has been kind enough to take a working servo from another vehicle and put in my ex with no luck. My servo was put into the other vehicle and worked just fine. So not a servo issue. They have had the Ex for an additional 2 days now and are working with Ford tech help to find the issue. Apparently they have gone as far as bypassing certain wiring to try to "hot wire" the cruise to make it work.

This all came about as my cruise started to work sporadically a few months ago. Once or if they figure out the issue I will post the results.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 11:39 PM
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Barnesrr, I'm having same issues. I had dealership replace brake pressure switch, I had. New steering wheel switches put in and replaced the servo from a junk yard. So far they have ran diagnostics and come back to a servo issue each time. The local dealership has been kind enough to take a working servo from another vehicle and put in my ex with no luck. My servo was put into the other vehicle and worked just fine. So not a servo issue. They have had the Ex for an additional 2 days now and are working with Ford tech help to find the issue. Apparently they have gone as far as bypassing certain wiring to try to "hot wire" the cruise to make it work.

This all came about as my cruise started to work sporadically a few months ago. Once or if they figure out the issue I will post the results.
I appreciate that it is been a huge pain. I read in a few of the forums that the speed sensors could have something to do with it but I don't want to throw too much money at it without knowing if it will work.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 06:18 AM
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You will need a multi-meter (and know how to use it) in order to do further troubleshooting. Do you have those prerequisites? If you do not, take it to a shop or the dealer for diagnosis.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 06:29 AM
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Barnesrr, I'm having same issues. I had dealership replace brake pressure switch, I had. New steering wheel switches put in and replaced the servo from a junk yard. So far they have ran diagnostics and come back to a servo issue each time. The local dealership has been kind enough to take a working servo from another vehicle and put in my ex with no luck. My servo was put into the other vehicle and worked just fine. So not a servo issue. They have had the Ex for an additional 2 days now and are working with Ford tech help to find the issue. Apparently they have gone as far as bypassing certain wiring to try to "hot wire" the cruise to make it work.

This all came about as my cruise started to work sporadically a few months ago. Once or if they figure out the issue I will post the results.
If a dealership cannot diagnose and repair this system in two days, they don't have a competent technician working on it.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 07:50 AM
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I do have a pretty good multimeter what do I need to check, I already checked the pressure cancel switch and I am getting voltage to it
 
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Ok, finally got a call from the dealership- they had a "Special"technician from Ford come in to review the diagnosis and came to same conclusion that my ABS Control Module is causing a error in speed sensors and is reason for cruise not working. So far I have replaced the pressure switch, cruise switches on steering wheel, and servo. They want $1,100 to replace the ABS and hope this solves the issue. Needless to say I will be heading on spring break without cruise. The X has 150k miles so not sure any further investment in this problem is worth it, at least not through the dealership. Barnesrr I hope you are able to get you issue fix quicker and for a lot less than mine. Good luck
 
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Wow. the ABS control module, the electronics that bolt onto the ABS valve unit, is not very complicated.

If you take it to a dirt road or other soft surface, can you get the ABS to activate? Does the speedo work, or does it jump around?

That, and check the connectors on the ABS unit, make sure they aren't corroded.
 
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Ok, finally got a call from the dealership- they had a "Special"technician from Ford come in to review the diagnosis and came to same conclusion that my ABS Control Module is causing a error in speed sensors and is reason for cruise not working. So far I have replaced the pressure switch, cruise switches on steering wheel, and servo. They want $1,100 to replace the ABS and hope this solves the issue. Needless to say I will be heading on spring break without cruise. The X has 150k miles so not sure any further investment in this problem is worth it, at least not through the dealership. Barnesrr I hope you are able to get you issue fix quicker and for a lot less than mine. Good luck
If an ABS module was causing a VSC failure, you should also have a failed speedometer/odometer function (and more). If those work correctly, the diagnosis of an ABS controller as the fault is dubious. The only thing common to all those functions is the VSS signal which is generated in the ABS module from the read diff sensor and is then distributed (hardwired in the CJB) to the VSC servo, the cluster, the PCM, GEM, and the OHC, if equipped.

I suspect your symptoms were NOT identical to the OP's.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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If an ABS module was causing a VSC failure, you should also have a failed speedometer/odometer function (and more). If those work correctly, the diagnosis of an ABS controller as the fault is dubious. The only thing common to all those functions is the VSS signal which is generated in the ABS module from the read diff sensor and is then distributed (hardwired in the CJB) to the VSC servo, the cluster, the PCM, GEM, and the OHC, if equipped.

I suspect your symptoms were NOT identical to the OP's.
I was able to ask additional questions today at dealership when I picked up the X, the tech used the shop's foreman's 2003 F250 and took parts off donor truck to swap out on mine to pin down issue and eliminate potential issues. They were able to switch out the rear diff sensor, servo, etc... Along with my new pressure switch and cruise buttons on steering wheel. They indicate the ABS control module does send signals to the servo but continues to not work. In regard to questions on my speedometer - it has never acted up or stopped working. The truck really has not had any issues other than cruise stopped working on day on the way home from the lake. I'll be checking rock auto.com in near future to look at ABS Control module. Thanks for all your suggestions.
 
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You are not paying attention. Follow this very closely:

If the speedometer and the other functions that use the VSS signal are all normal, the ABS control module is NOT the cause of your speed control failure. Clear enough?
 
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