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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:19 AM
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Y-pipe to turbo hell

Going through hell to install a new turbo.

I've been through this before, but just once. Last time I was able to lightly pry up on the turbo - lining it up to the y-pipe then hit the v-clamp (like I had 3 arms) and it was good. Now I have a different turbo and the y-pipe is about 1/8" too far away towards the drivers side headlight. I have no means of pushing it. Hammering it with a pry bar to catch the lip is not working. I have been fighting like crazy to line this up.

I've heard of people loosening the y-pipe bolts at the exhaust manifold to allow wiggle room but those bolts look waaay rusty and I'm scared of cracking them off/stripping the head off. Should I just soak them with wd 40 or ph blaster and pray?

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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:39 AM
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Soak them several times.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:39 AM
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That's exactly what you should do. I ALWAYS loosen my y-pipe bolts when I'm moving the turbo (don't forget the EGR cooler). It just makes lining everything up SO much easier and you don't chance cracking flex tubes and breaking clamps. BTW--the clamps will not align the y-pipe, they are only for sealing the pipes together.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:40 AM
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Is it a stock turbo? what year truck?
I've found that when the turbo is seated properly on the pedestal no grunt work is needed. Now this is on a 2006 so if older not sure. It does take a bit of effort to get it seated properly on the pedestal though.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DickNitro
I've heard of people loosening the y-pipe bolts at the exhaust manifold to allow wiggle room
Originally Posted by npccpartsman
That's exactly what you should do.
X2, you aren't going to get it lined up without taking the pipes loose.

You need four of each of these hardware numbers:
W300013
W300013

Look at pages 7-9 in this .pdf:
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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That's what I'll do then. Thank you guys for the help and the part #'s. I'll post any progress (or lack thereof)

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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
X2, you aren't going to get it lined up without taking the pipes loose.

You need four of each of these hardware numbers:
W300013
W300013


Look at pages 7-9 in this .pdf:
they are the same number
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Is it a stock turbo? what year truck?
I've found that when the turbo is seated properly on the pedestal no grunt work is needed. Now this is on a 2006 so if older not sure. It does take a bit of effort to get it seated properly on the pedestal though.
Maybe I'm just blessed like you, but I've never had to fight a turbo to get it to seat.

I'm always the guy that everybody calls after they've fought for a few hours, then I show up, spend a few minutes and get: "How the heck did you do that?!?!? "
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:09 AM
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My biggest problem was convincing myself that I didn't damage the return tube o-ring after setting it down on the pedestal, to the point I actually removed it twice since it didn't "feel right", and the third time actually replaced the o-ring(had a spare for some reason). Must have been a case of temporary OCD.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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I have had a couple fight me a little, for those I use the ratchet strap method.

I usually make it a habit to loosen the driver side manifold to y-pipe if the pipe doesn't line up by hand otherwise.

Helps if the turbo is seated with the bolts installed, but left loose.

Josh
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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You may wind up haveing to use all the mentioned procedures.
Some of the trucks I used to work on I got in the habit of just cutting off the bolts holding the pipes to the manifold and replaceing them with anything that will fit. They are just a long bolt and nut.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
Maybe I'm just blessed like you, but I've never had to fight a turbo to get it to seat.

I'm always the guy that everybody calls after they've fought for a few hours, then I show up, spend a few minutes and get: "How the heck did you do that?!?!? "
The very first time I tried to put it in it took me forever and it still wasn't right. Was told you can't pull it together with the clamp. Used a crow bar to move the turbo around. Heard a clunk and there it was perfect. Been that easy ever since--jiggle,clunk,good to go.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Yeah there is a very clearly defined lip on these things that fit together like a puzzle piece. Last time I heard the klunk, but that was my old turbo. Maybe I should split this one in half and use the exhaust side of my old one! the only problem was my unison ring actuator dowel. All else was ok
 
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
they are the same number
Copy/paste fail

4 of each:

W300051, Y-pipe nuts

W300013, Y-pipe long bolts
 
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 11:10 PM
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Well the good news is i've managed to loosen the most accessible bolt on each side. The real question is how the &@%#* do I get to the top bolts without the half moon wrench? I can't even get my hand in them small spaces.
 
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