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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 01:10 PM
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Air test it. Command the IPR closed, remove oil filter and cap, if you hear it gurgling.... you need a new pump. Remember, it's failing but not completely failed yet... why it won't hot restart. Do the air test.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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By command the IPR closed, can I just unplug it?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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No. You could air test thru that hole also, then you won't need to do anything but apply air and listen.

If you choose the ICP route, you'll need to give the IPR 12v to close it.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 02:05 PM
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Your making 360 psi oil pressure so unless you have some studded and nitrous tricked out compressor this air test won't work

My guess is pump

Regardless it's in the range only a deadhead test will show anything

Read my old thread on it there was a bunch of ways to troubleshoot it

Pull the discharge line off see if oil continues to just bleeds threw hpop
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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Maybe the outer HPOP CASE is just spinning

There was info to fix your pump if that case spun

Of coarse if the case spins LPO Usually higher psi then normal

You still need to post ICPV SO that sensor can be checked
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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I'm waiting for it to cool down so I can pull it back in the garage, I'm going to pull the IPR and see if I can get a fitting to do the air test.....more to follow, thanks guys
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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I doubt you will find anything to fit in the IPR hole, it's a pretty odd size, unless there is a way to use a cork or something and then a rubber tipped blow gun, just thinking out loud here from memory.
The IPR set up that is advertised looks like a sweet set up but it's not cheap unless you wrench for a living.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
I doubt you will find anything to fit in the IPR hole, it's a pretty odd size, unless there is a way to use a cork or something and then a rubber tipped blow gun, just thinking out loud here from memory.
The IPR set up that is advertised looks like a sweet set up but it's not cheap unless you wrench for a living.
This is a true statement! I wet to 3 places and it appears to be a 22mm x 1.5 thread. I didn't really even come close, not to mention its so tight in there. Is the ICP thread any more common?? And if I get air in through there how do I command the IPR closed?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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Here is what you need. Pretty sure it's the smaller of the two, and IIRC correctly the other one will fit in the upper fuel filter bowl test port should you ever feel the need to monitor fuel pressure. I won't tell you the ICP thread is more common however, sorry to say, I would have sourced locally had I been able to do so.

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As far as commanding the IPR? I rednecked it. Simply took two wires with and put ends on them, then used the battery to command it when I had air hooked up.
It takes some pretty small wire ends to get on those two male terminals on the IPR. Not the best way to do it but hey, it worked for me and I was in a pinch and new to the 6.0 at the time.
Be sure to get the polarity correct, IIRC it might make a difference but don't quote me on that. I was a bit **** about the whole thing at the time.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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This should do the trick! Old icp, cut the head off and drilled it out, air check going down tomorrow! Still not sure how to command the ipr shut though
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Read the last half of my post, it's the poor mans version if you don't have software to do so.....just be sure you don't have the IPR commanded for more than 20 seconds at a time, give it some time in between command tests if you need to do more than one. Commanded full stop for too long can burn them up

Pratt and Whitney eh? Are you on the engine side of things?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
Read the last half of my post, it's the poor mans version if you don't have software to do so.....just be sure you don't have the IPR commanded for more than 20 seconds at a time, give it some time in between command tests if you need to do more than one. Commanded full stop for too long can burn them up

Pratt and Whitney eh? Are you on the engine side of things?
Oh sorry, I didn't see the second part of your post, I'll see what I can do tomorrow. Nope, wife works for Pratt in international compliance, she's in Miami right now for a some kind of bull**** conference, I'm retired military and employed full time working on my 6.0!!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 08:38 AM
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Could I have missed this? Before doing an air check, I wanted to see the IPR on the bench w 12 volts applied, I get nothing! No click and no movement, just silence.....if this thing is not operating correctly could this be my problem? It appears right now to be in the closed position meaning I cant get air through the end of the valve.....????
 
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 09:13 AM
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Scratch that last statement, air does pass through the valve on the bench
 
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Checked it again with voltage and just silence, the terminal sparks a bit but no clicks or movement whatsoever.
 
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