How do you interpret this?
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I only posted to see what other people thought the wording meant. Didn't matter where it was for.
I know what I got from it, just wanted to see if others were reading it the same.
Thanks for all the input.
I know what I got from it, just wanted to see if others were reading it the same.
Thanks for all the input.
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I read that as it is written, the point I think people are missing is the the engine does not have to meet the equipment requirements of the year of the vehicle, it must meet the equipment requirements of the engine, e.g. if you put a 2005 engine in a say a 1970 truck the engine needs to have the required equipment of the 2005 engine, not the 1970 chassis you put it in. So as long as you install an engine that is older than the year they list, in this case 1999, you should be exempt from this rule.
That is how I interpret it, and by the way CA lifornia has similar rules and to answer the question about it being a rolling year rule in California, that was eliminated a long time ago, the rule as been for years that '76 and newer chassis must be equipped with all factory installed emission equipment. There are other caveats to the laws but that is the gist of it.
That is how I interpret it, and by the way CA lifornia has similar rules and to answer the question about it being a rolling year rule in California, that was eliminated a long time ago, the rule as been for years that '76 and newer chassis must be equipped with all factory installed emission equipment. There are other caveats to the laws but that is the gist of it.
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I read that as it is written, the point I think people are missing is the the engine does not have to meet the equipment requirements of the year of the vehicle, it must meet the equipment requirements of the engine, e.g. if you put a 2005 engine in a say a 1970 truck the engine needs to have the required equipment of the 2005 engine, not the 1970 chassis you put it in. So as long as you install an engine that is older than the year they list, in this case 1999, you should be exempt from this rule.
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Laws are one thing, enforcement is another.
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I was just told by a guy that runs an old truck with a crate motor.
A crate motor from factory doesn't come with any emission standards therefore you do not need to worry about it.
He's going to send me the info he has later on
A crate motor from factory doesn't come with any emission standards therefore you do not need to worry about it.
He's going to send me the info he has later on
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If I were to ever run into any problems which I doubt, all I'd have to do is put some cats on it. I'm planning on having the panel tuned on a dyno this spring.
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I read it as a two fold statement. 1 Your new motor must meet the emission standards of the original motor at the least . 2 The new motor must also have any emission parts that would have been standard for that engine.
A newer engine should have better emissions than a 1940's engine. If the newer engine would normally have an air pump then it needs an air pump.
But why worry the big one is going to hit Calif anyway and then Nevada will be beach front property. So find out what NV laws are.
A newer engine should have better emissions than a 1940's engine. If the newer engine would normally have an air pump then it needs an air pump.
But why worry the big one is going to hit Calif anyway and then Nevada will be beach front property. So find out what NV laws are.
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Yeah, that just really sounds like my BC government. Up here the tree huggers rule, not that I don't like trees.
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California = the only true communist state entity currently allowed in the USA . like was mentioned earlier be it canada or otherwise stick with the older stuff and avoid the legal issues ......
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Chad: I don't we have to worry about this in Canada for a long time. Unless you live in the GTA. I think Justin has bigger fish to fry
. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't worry about it.
. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't worry about it.
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Fun thread. I say the only thing more difficult than interpretation of this regulation will be enforcement. Here in the US we are innocent until proven guilty and proving when the current engine was installed in my truck will not be easy. And proving it is a 1998 or a 1978 SBC 350 isn't easy either without pulling it out. But no matter, Oregon is pretty green but they haven't threatened the hot rod hobbyist in the least.