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Old 01-18-2016, 08:07 PM
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Should I use an 1985 year 12 volt battery charger to charge a new sear diehard?

I have an 1985 Sears 2/8 amp, 12 volt battery charge that I originally bought. I've only used it twice or so. It's been in the box in and looks to be in good shape. Should I used it to charge a totally dead Sears Platinum Diehard? This battery is completely sealed so no water to add.

Will the charger be OK to use and not burst the battery? Don't know how the gas can vent so that is my concern.

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It is vented.

No reason not to use that charger.
It is going to take a long time
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
It is vented.

No reason not to use that charger.
It is going to take a long time
How long will it take on the 2 amp setting vs the 8 amp setting? Just asking for a reasonable guess.

I figured it had to be vented, but I don't see anywhere to add water. Maybe I will take a closer look now.

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You say it's completely dead.
Most battery's will never come back from that.

How many amps and what group size is the battery?
Without a load test to tell you how dead your battery really is there's no way to know. (How long)
10 hours @ 10A = 100Ah.

Your best bet is to monitor temperature and voltage.
stop if the battery gets too warm or when it reaches 14V right after disconnecting the charger.
A healthy battery is about 12.5-6V at rest (hours after the charger is disconnected)
 
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Battery tested zero volts

I didn't drive my truck for two days and i tried this morning to start. It was the deadest I've ever seen a battery. Not even a clicking sound. I took the battery out and it tested zero.

I didn't think running it to zero would totally kill it. I have a three year warrantee on it.

Numbers on SearS DieHard Platinum say
930 CCA / 65
135 RC /50065

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Will be fine on the 8 amp setting. You'd have to neglect the battery for a couple days or more to cause trouble.

It helps to monitor the voltage and keep an eye on things, though, and compare with the AGM battery charge chart at

http://www.batteryfaq.org

8 to 10 hours sounds about right. Even better, monitor the current. Remember it takes roughly two volts over the normal resting battery voltage to charge a battery. So it will start out with about 8 amps and very little voltage. Watch the voltage track the chart at the site linked. Pretty cool huh? As the battery charges the amps decline to just a fraction and the voltage tops out somewhere around 14.5 to 15.5 volts depending on temperature, battery is fully charged. Put it on a timer to be safe.
 
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Did you leave the lights on?

I'd be more concerned about what killed the battery, than the fact that it's dead.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Did you leave the lights on?

I'd be more concerned about what killed the battery, than the fact that it's dead.
I'm looking into that now. BTW, Sears charged the battery for me and said it was "good." So I'm off to see what the real problem is. There's been a slow drain on the thing for years and I can't find anybody who knows how to trace it.

Maybe this time it will show up better.

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Sears gave it a quickie charge. An overnight slow charge is adviseable. It's possible to overcharge a battery but ya really have to go out of your way to do it. Particularly after it has been discharged completely.
 
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Systematic Way

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Good luck with that, I hope you don't rely on this rig.

Wire a light or buzzer between the battery and the cable. Then start unplugging things systematically until the light/buzzer goes out.

Systematically? Ford uses the starter solenoid as a junction point start there, remove all the wires on the big post, if the light/buzzer goes out put each back until it comes back. Then find that in the wiring diagram to see where it goes. Then start disconnecting pieces of that circuit until the light buzzer goes out, etc. Likely it will end up at the fuse box, so pull each fuse until the light/buzzer goes out, etc.
OK, never thought of that. I'm going to try it. Unfortunately, I do rely on this truck for my only transportation.

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New battery in 2015 F150...dead...F150 not driven since 8/6/2015 (I've been ill).

Ancient trickle charger hooked up, it might be ready by this time tomorrow.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
New battery in 2015 F150...dead...F150 not driven since 8/6/2015 (I've been ill).

Ancient trickle charger hooked up, it might be ready by this time tomorrow.
Slow charging is the way to go.

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