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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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2016 F150 Door Alignment Adjustment?

I just checked and my latches all line up with my strikers. My front passenger door sticks out where it meets the rear door at the bottom maybe 1/8" but the top looks perfect.

No air leaks that I can tell and I wouldn't have noticed if not for this forum but now that I have...

I do wonder if I can adjust the bottom in somehow but I don't see adjusting the bottom without affecting the rest of the door.

I've been looking here and on YouTube and everybody says to let the dealer handle it. I would rather fix it myself if it's not overly complicated if there is a fix I can perform.

It feels like Ford QC leaves a lot to be desired.

Thank you for any help or advice you may have to offer.


 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Mine is worse. Maybe about 1/4" on each side. The "gap" around the doors if viewed from either side looks fine.

However, the bottom front of the front passenger door sticks out about 1/4". Likewise the bottom back of the back passenger door sticks out about 1/4".

it almost looks like the whole cab is twisted slightly counter-clockwise as viewed from above.

This is not something I would attempt on my own. My dealer said they would farm this out to a local body shop, and it would take 2-3 days.

I can't be without the vehicle until around the end of January, so I intend to schedule the time around the 24th of January.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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Yeah this is very minor and so long as it doesn't leak air/water I'm not ultimately concerned... But it is new and I am picky so if I can get it straightened out without being without the vehicle for a while I will.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDVB
Yeah this is very minor and so long as it doesn't leak air/water I'm not ultimately concerned... But it is new and I am picky so if I can get it straightened out without being without the vehicle for a while I will.
My perspective is coming from owning 4 different Toyota trucks over the last 15 years, and them being pretty much perfect (at least without getting out a micrometer). Even our ancient 1985 Nissan did not have this issue, and that was one cheap truck. When I spend around $50,000 for a vehicle, truck or not, I expect a certain level of build quality.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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While I don't dispute your views - I generally share them - I also know we live in the real world where 'Made in the USA' really generally doesn't have anything to do with quality anymore.

I had lots of issues with my Tundra [assembled in Texas] as well. Had 0 issues with my Mitsubishi built in Japan. Owned it from 2006 until last year - never once was it at the dealership for anything.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 09:00 PM
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I would adjust the rear door out to match the front door.

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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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I would adjust the rear door out to match the front door.

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I was thinking that while sitting here that the easiest thing would be to bring the bottom of the back out slightly. I just don't want to introduce wind noise or a gap. I would sooner leave it with this tiny misalignment.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDVB
I was thinking that while sitting here that the easiest thing would be to bring the bottom of the back out slightly. I just don't want to introduce wind noise or a gap. I would sooner leave it with this tiny misalignment.
Worse comes to worse, just move the rear door to where it was.

As a consolation, neither my 2005 F250 or my current 2006 F250 have perfectly aligned doors. That doesn't bother me as much as the gap in the hood on the passenger side.

Won't be an issue once my 2016 Lariat arrives 1/25

Josh
 
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Admittedly it doesn't look perfect. However, if it's not leaking air or water, just let it go. As far as adjustments, I'd also never attempt this on my own. You may get lucky and get one right but not likely. I'd imagine that a body shop has more than one person on the job when doing door and panel adjustments.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 08:16 AM
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Admittedly it doesn't look perfect. However, if it's not leaking air or water, just let it go. As far as adjustments, I'd also never attempt this on my own. You may get lucky and get one right but not likely. I'd imagine that a body shop has more than one person on the job when doing door and panel adjustments.
I would have my wife and/or a friend help if I tried. I would be concerned I would make it worse though.

Was hoping there was some sort of adjustment bolt but it looks like the only option is to loosen the hinge and reposition the door. Imho it would end up worse not better if I tried.
 
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My question has always been WHY is Japan able to make close the flawless vehicles, yet the US for some reason cannot copy them. I sure know if the Japanese were losing market share to the US due to quality issues they would be visiting our factories, buying our vehicles and disassembling them to copy what we were doing. Why isn't Ford ever doing this?

Originally Posted by MikeDVB
While I don't dispute your views - I generally share them - I also know we live in the real world where 'Made in the USA' really generally doesn't have anything to do with quality anymore.

I had lots of issues with my Tundra [assembled in Texas] as well. Had 0 issues with my Mitsubishi built in Japan. Owned it from 2006 until last year - never once was it at the dealership for anything.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by elemint
My question has always been WHY is Japan able to make close the flawless vehicles, yet the US for some reason cannot copy them. I sure know if the Japanese were losing market share to the US due to quality issues they would be visiting our factories, buying our vehicles and disassembling them to copy what we were doing. Why isn't Ford ever doing this?
They have an entire building in Dearborn dedicated to disassembling, inspecting, and testing the competitions vehicles.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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My question has always been WHY is Japan able to make close the flawless vehicles, yet the US for some reason cannot copy them. I sure know if the Japanese were losing market share to the US due to quality issues they would be visiting our factories, buying our vehicles and disassembling them to copy what we were doing. Why isn't Ford ever doing this?

Originally Posted by MikeDVB
While I don't dispute your views - I generally share them - I also know we live in the real world where 'Made in the USA' really generally doesn't have anything to do with quality anymore.

I had lots of issues with my Tundra [assembled in Texas] as well. Had 0 issues with my Mitsubishi built in Japan. Owned it from 2006 until last year - never once was it at the dealership for anything.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 11:22 PM
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My question has always been WHY is Japan able to make close the flawless vehicles, yet the US for some reason cannot copy them.
Not to put too fine a point on it, they are actually copying us (or what we us'ed to be.) Read up on a fellow named Deming, and the concept of continuous improvement and dedication to excellence. America is being deindustrialized anyway, its factories are shuttering and moving overseas while they are importing illiterates and worse.

It's a ****ing nightmare what they have done.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Well my '16 goes into the body shop Thursday morning for door alignment. They said "we see a lot of these" and "we should have it back to you by the end of the day."

Anything I should check/photograph/measure before and after? I want to make sure nothing gets messed up in the process.
 
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