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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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Purchased another excursion this fall, a 2000 7.3. No problems with it until the weather dropped recently. We hadn't driven it in a few weeks and now it won't start. Batteries seem to be at least part of the issue as they die even after being charged overnight but I'd hate to spend 4-500 on batteries and still have other issues. Do these trucks have issues in cold (North Dakota cold) weather? Tried searching but with such vague terms too much info pops up.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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I should add that it sounds like the glow plugs are kicking in and that we had a similar issue earlier in the cold but were able to get it going that time. Seems like I had to pump the gas, which probably isn't a good thing?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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Shouldn't need to pump the gas, if anything you hold the pedal to the floor until it starts while cranking (that's what I've done with older diesels, don't know if that applies to newer'ish ones). Sounds like you have glow plug issues. Can you move it into a heated garage for the night to see if it will start in the morning?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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I don't have access to a heated garage. I'm worried about the glow plugs as well but I don't know anything about them.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jazz77
Do these trucks have issues in cold (North Dakota cold) weather? Tried searching but with such vague terms too much info pops up.
Cold is relative, even when you qualify it as North Dakota cold. What temps are you talking about? Have you tried plugging it in overnight?

And why the heck would you spend 4 to 500 dollars for two batteries? Where the heck are you buying them that they cost so much?

Does ND have any Costco's?

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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jazz77
Purchased another excursion this fall, a 2000 7.3. No problems with it until the weather dropped recently. We hadn't driven it in a few weeks and now it won't start. Batteries seem to be at least part of the issue as they die even after being charged overnight but I'd hate to spend 4-500 on batteries and still have other issues. Do these trucks have issues in cold (North Dakota cold) weather? Tried searching but with such vague terms too much info pops up.
ALL Diesels can have problems with the cold if the pre-heating sys has run a foul & so can batteries. Could be the CPS as well.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jazz77
Purchased another excursion this fall, a 2000 7.3. No problems with it until the weather dropped recently. We hadn't driven it in a few weeks and now it won't start. Batteries seem to be at least part of the issue as they die even after being charged overnight but I'd hate to spend 4-500 on batteries and still have other issues. Do these trucks have issues in cold (North Dakota cold) weather? Tried searching but with such vague terms too much info pops up.
If the batteries have gone to s***, you NEED batteries no matter what other issues the truck might have . Start there, it's the KNOWN issue for now.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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I don't know if you have Costco there, but they carry the Interstate batteries we need for just a hair over $200 (for a pair of them) with the core and sales tax. I'd really start there... because all the glow plugs in the world won't solve the lack of juice to power them, or the lack of oomph to convince the starter to crank up to the needed RPMs to get the cold oil-a-flowin'.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys. Looks like I'm gonna get some batteries and go from there. The 4-500 I was talking about was because I planned on getting some Diehard platinum group 65s. I have them in my V10 and love them, can leave it sit for weeks and months on end and regardless of that or temp it turns right over. This 7.3 is my 3rd vehicle so it may be a couple weeks before I make it my priority.
 
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As far as the temps we're talking from mid 20's to below 0 over the time period it's been sitting.
 
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You shouldn't even have to plug in at those temps if your batteries and GP system are in working order. You need to cycle the glow plugs long enough to get heat into the cylinders. At those temps, I would turn the key forward and wait for at LEAST 60 seconds 20 degrees, closer to 120 seconds at 0 or below.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 04:34 PM
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Get you one of these at Wally World. It will tell you your batteries power... tell you if your glow plugs come on... tell you the draw down when the GPs come on.... tell you when the glow plugs go off.... tell you the output of your alternator. this will keep a lot of the guessing out of the equation.




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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Get you one of these at Wally World. It will tell you your batteries power... tell you if your glow plugs come on... tell you the draw down when the GPs come on.... tell you when the glow plugs go off.... tell you the output of your alternator. this will keep a lot of the guessing out of the equation.




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Interesting looking product, I might have to check it out.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jazz77
The 4-500 I was talking about was because I planned on getting some Diehard platinum group 65s.
For less than the price of one of those, you can get two batteries at Costco, 850cca. I believe last time I looked they were $90 each. I'm going on 6 years on my set, and they still load test and crank over strong. My truck also sits for weeks, sometimes months at a time. Heat is what shortens battery life, so as stated already, you really want to make sure your glow plug system is in proper working order.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jazz77
Interesting looking product, I might have to check it out.
Cheap volt meter does it's job...

Get a plug in Voltage meter now, you will be glad you did

Plug in Voltmeter avoids breakdown (again)

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