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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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california emmissions

i have heard that a truck with California emissions gets less fuel mileage a opposed to one without California emissions. is that true?

if so what is the difference between the 2 systems?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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They are all 50 state emission now unless you get an emissions exempt one, but you'd have to be a municipality or something. So whatever the difference is, it doesn't matter on new ones.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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I believe (like Frantz) that the emissions are currently all the same for all 50 states.

However, California gas is a "special blend" that includes specific oxygenates. That may have some impact on emissions separate from the equipment/controls in the engine. It may also impact mileage, although the mileage I'm getting on my 3.5L EB is right about where I expected it to be.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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What kind of mileage are you getting with you 3.5 EB?

What performance upgrades can I do to get better mileage out of the truck?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:07 AM
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What are you using the truck for? If you need the performance of the EB then I wouldn't want to make many of the changes to get better economy. Driving habits will play a bigger role than any changes you will make. More street friendly tires, and at the least, keeping tires properly inflated. If you don't need the extra power, get the 2.7 EB if economy is the big concern.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:26 AM
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Anyone know when they all became 50 state compliant? I noticed that the 2016 that I tested had it clearly printed on the monroney sticker.

My 2011 is not a Kalifornia emissions rated truck.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 05:41 PM
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My 15 2.7 has ca. Emissions. Does anyone actually know what is different?

Just maping or hardware?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sparke454
What kind of mileage are you getting with you 3.5 EB?

What performance upgrades can I do to get better mileage out of the truck?
We get ~~ 19 up and down the mountain that we drive almost daily. On longer trips we get ~~ 21. This is calculated, not according to the dash-o-meter.

Can't advise about performance upgrades. Personally, I don't think I don't think it needs it.
 
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This is from the 2016 F150 Order Guide.



EMISSIONS STANDARD/OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT


FEDERAL/NON-CALIFORNIAEMISSIONS SYSTEM


Standardequipment on vehicles destined for Federal Emissions State or Cross


BorderState dealers


50-STATEEMISSIONS SYSTEM ................................................425


Optionalcode for Commercial and Government Fleet only.


CALIFORNIAEMISSIONS SYSTEM ............................................422


Requiredcode for California Emissions States registration. Optional code for


CrossBorder State dealers.


CALIFORNIAEMISSIONS SYSTEM NOT REQUIRED ........................... 423


Dealersordering a vehicle without a California or 50-State Emissions System


andwhich is being shipped to a California Emissions State dealer are also


requiredto use Code 423 to attest either that the vehicle is not being registered


ina California Emissions State or that Code 936 is applicable. Note: In Maine,


RhodeIsland and Vermont, dealers cannot use Code 423 for customers


outsideof California Emissions States locations (except Public


Service/EmergencyVehicles – Code 936).


CALIFORNIAEMISSION EXEMPTION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE/EMERGENCY


VEHICLES.................................................. ...................936


Thisexemption may only apply in certain California Emissions states. Ordering


dealeris responsible to contact the proper state authorities for clarification on


qualifyingexempted vehicles for registration. Only available on units sold for


authorizedpublic service or emergency service use. Must also use Code 423


whenordering.


FEDERALEMISSIONS STATE DEALER ORDER FOR CALIFORNIA


EMISSIONSSTATES REGISTRATION ..........................................93N


FederalEmissions State dealers ordering a California Emissions System


(Code422) are also required to use Code 93N to attest that the vehicle is to be


registeredin a California Emissions State. Note: It is a violation of Federal law


fora Federal Emissions State dealer to sell a vehicle with a California


EmissionsSystem for registration in a Federal Emissions State, unless the


vehiclealso meets EPA standards (i.e. 50-state emissions). Not available for


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