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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:22 PM
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Heay load problem

My 1971 F-250 4x4 runs great until I pull my 22 ft travel trailer under load, up grades only. I think it is a ignition problem, like timing. New Holly 4 bbl carb on it, also new plugs, dist cap, rotor, points, condenser. Can anyone help me out with this issue? Thanks.... fish...
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:35 PM
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Is it stumbling or is it just down on power? What engine/transmission, axle ratios, carb CFM, is the carb tuned properly?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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390/ 4 bbl eldobrock manifold, 650 or 700 cfm. 410 gear ratio, 4 speed with a 2 speed transfer case. I'm thinking maybe vacuum advance.. Thank you for the reply... fish
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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But what is it doing???
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:15 PM
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You're most welcome!

If its the vac advance, I am assuming it is a little down on power? It might be a good idea to check the timing again. Any issues with pinging? It is a new carb, is it adjusted and tuned properly? Is your fuel economy within a reasonable range? How does it drive unloaded?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:23 PM
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Judging by your other post about it stalling under acceleration.... There are still several possibilities....
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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It is not stalling, I replaced coil also, maybe jetting prob, I do not think so , but maybe, Fuel mileage is , will we all know 8-10, up hill , down , backward or sideways. 6-7 with my trailer under load is only when I have this prob. Carb new 1 yr ago. Maybe vacuum advance is not holding under long heavy load. I am not going to give up , it is prob something stupid.. I hope to find it soon
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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The gas mileage seems to be normal. Check to see that the vac advance is not leaking. Is it a recent problem?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Am I missing something here?!?!?

You still haven't told us what it is or isn't doing!!!!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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It is not firing right or something, not backfiring, not pinging, just seems to be cutting out under heavy load, I have never seen an issue like this, I don't believe it is fuel shortage because it does not do it when I am pulling hard on it while not towing. I am still going to try to figure it out some way. Thank you 351 Cleveland. I still think it is electrical, timing, advance, just don't know. ( It is since I put the new carb on it though.) Thank you both for your time and response
 
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 12:58 AM
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When you changed the plugs, dist cap, & rotor, points & condenser, did you replace the spark plug wires too? I ask because cutting out under a heavy load happens with old worn out wires.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 12:59 AM
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Observe timing marks for smooth advance and back through RPM ranges with vacuum advance both connected and disconnected, note total mechanical "all in" timing and check vacuum diaphragm. Distributors wear out and get sloppy. They don't cost much more than a tank or two of fuel.

Newly manufactured points, and condensers, are mostly overseas crap. Only good NOS from 50s-70s or Motorcraft should be used.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Thanks all, I will keep you all posted as I try different things...
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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With all the info you gave us, it sound like your just under powered. No stalling , No backfiring of any kind, You don't say what it is really doing other then the truck won't pull your "Heavy Loaded trailer"

You may be expecting a 390 to pull any heavy load. You've run out of the power band by over loading the truck. Those f250 4wd weigh in at 5,300 to 5,500 empty.
Then add a heavy loaded trailer with a 390 eng. with xxx power has then craped out.

I think you just over loading your 390 may be go with a 460 with more TQ to do your heavy towing.
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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There is no vacuum advance under heavy load, only cruising with a light throttle. Now a vacuum leak is another thing. You eliminate a few things if you install a Pertronix ignition module.
 
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