Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Steering & Stability Issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 22, 2015 | 10:38 PM
  #1  
dabz's Avatar
dabz
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Steering & Stability Issues

Hi guys new to this forum and new to owning a 2005 Excursion Limited 4WD 6.0 Diesel 140k miles. (sorry for long thread, hope someone can help)

When I bought the Excursion I had to drive it about 200 miles back home and it was all over the place. The steering seems real loose and when I hit bumps or a large gust of wind comes along the Excursion is all over the road.

I took it to Ford to get an alignment the next day and they said I need new outer tie rods ends, upper & lower ball joints, front shocks, steering stabilizer, locking hubs.

After that I took it to my mechanic who said I did not really need all that stuff done but if I did it I should be set with the Excursion for a long time. I opted to do all of these suggestions because I will be doing a lot of traveling with my family and wanted the peace of mind that all is well. For shocks I put new front and rear bilstein shocks (nothing fancy, I think they were about $80 each, sales rep said they would provide a firmer ride for towing).

After that I took it to another Tire shop for an alignment, they complimented all the work done and said I just need to get used to the steering after coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I took there word for it and headed on a 2k road trip.

I love the Excursion but once again it was all over the place. It seems worse around 65-70 mph, and I found going around 75-85 it would be a little bit easier of a drive until a Semi Truck would go by or I would get stuck in a lot of traffic or hit a lot of bumps.

At first I had a very firm grip on the wheel but quickly learned that a loose grip at around 4 & 8 o'clock on the wheel was best. I talked to a number of other Excursion owners who said there was was very smooth and straight.

The way it drives right now does not seem safe. Any suggestions?
 
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2015 | 11:41 PM
  #2  
Immortal_Ben's Avatar
Immortal_Ben
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,993
Likes: 16
From: Colorado
Welcome to the forum. We hope you get many miles of enjoyment out of your rig. Make sure to post up some pics for us to oogle!

This topic has been beat to death and back multiple times. Using the forum search will bring up a couple of days worth of reading. At that point, if you STILL have questions, we will jump in and help you out.
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:53 AM
  #3  
Jointasset's Avatar
Jointasset
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 300
Likes: 6
From: Tampa
I am/getting out of the same boat your in. I think all the issues you mentioned above have to be right whether it's the culprit or not as your truck is 12 years old. Your gearbox could be it, do you have a rear sway bar(just installed one and it made a huge difference), tire choice, etc. Mine steers 90% better after taking care of the above but I am going to place an order w junior at ATS for some X/C code springs to finish it off after searching this site for a while- ton of good info.
The guy that said get used to how it drives compared to your 2014 jeep is correct no matter what you do. My 2012 f250 rides like Cadillac compared to the X while my wife's suburban rides like a Bentley compared to my f250 however I still favor the X over all of them. Good luck w your quest and report back w your results.
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 05:42 AM
  #4  
mecdac's Avatar
mecdac
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 149
From: In the field...
Question

Originally Posted by dabz
Hi guys new to this forum and new to owning a 2005 Excursion Limited 4WD 6.0 Diesel 140k miles. (sorry for long thread, hope someone can help)

When I bought the Excursion I had to drive it about 200 miles back home and it was all over the place. The steering seems real loose and when I hit bumps or a large gust of wind comes along the Excursion is all over the road.

I took it to Ford to get an alignment the next day and they said I need new outer tie rods ends, upper & lower ball joints, front shocks, steering stabilizer, locking hubs.

After that I took it to my mechanic who said I did not really need all that stuff done but if I did it I should be set with the Excursion for a long time. I opted to do all of these suggestions because I will be doing a lot of traveling with my family and wanted the peace of mind that all is well. For shocks I put new front and rear bilstein shocks (nothing fancy, I think they were about $80 each, sales rep said they would provide a firmer ride for towing).

After that I took it to another Tire shop for an alignment, they complimented all the work done and said I just need to get used to the steering after coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I took there word for it and headed on a 2k road trip.

I love the Excursion but once again it was all over the place. It seems worse around 65-70 mph, and I found going around 75-85 it would be a little bit easier of a drive until a Semi Truck would go by or I would get stuck in a lot of traffic or hit a lot of bumps.

At first I had a very firm grip on the wheel but quickly learned that a loose grip at around 4 & 8 o'clock on the wheel was best. I talked to a number of other Excursion owners who said there was was very smooth and straight.

The way it drives right now does not seem safe. Any suggestions?


What size tires?

Load rating on tires?

What is pressure (PSI) in tires?
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:42 AM
  #5  
Magnus E's Avatar
Magnus E
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 11
From: Danbury, CT
At a 140k miles, you are likely due new steering components all around (steering gear box, tie rods, ball joints, sway bar bushings and steering damper). It took all of that on my 05, 6.0 to get it riding like new. Also check the dampeners (shocks).

Sorry - now I see you did everything except the box. I bet the steering gear is worn.
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 09:04 AM
  #6  
Olafs 7.3 ex's Avatar
Olafs 7.3 ex
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: North east Iowa
have you considered landyot radius rods
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 11:40 AM
  #7  
DavenTn's Avatar
DavenTn
Cargo Master
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,079
Likes: 63
From: Florida and Tennessee
Without a lot of banter... here's what I did.... and I'll rate on a scale of 1-10 what helped the most from my perspective.

10....20" rims and Michelin 275x65R-20 tires L/R E
Took the tire squirm out most noticable improvement to handling IMO.
9.... Red head steering Box
replaced box after adjusting the stuffings out of the original. Significant help to remove the steering play.
8.... Helwig rear sway bar
single best add on for the excursion ... it was my first suspension mod.
7.... V code front and Modded B code rear springs
makes it ride way better and is the proper spring rate for this truck. Helped with eliminating "rear" steer.
4-6.... Dual front (properly valved) Bilstein shocks, rear shocks and dual steering stabilizer.
I did rears first, then steering stabilizers, then front shocks. IMO the duals front shocks helped the most of the three.


Truck drives on rails after the above work, each additional or repair/mod made a minor improvement.

3.... RAS
helps more with towing,
3.... New front end pieces and parts (except the pitman arm)
I did it all at once so hard to tell what made the most improvement. XRF everything
1... unit bearings
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 02:21 PM
  #8  
Jointasset's Avatar
Jointasset
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 300
Likes: 6
From: Tampa
X2 on the rear stabilizer bar being priority #1. Don't completely understand the mechanics on how the bar makes that big of a difference but it does
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:44 PM
  #9  
Magnus E's Avatar
Magnus E
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 11
From: Danbury, CT
The 05 PSD came with a rear swaybar so should not be a big issue.
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2015 | 05:05 PM
  #10  
quietman's Avatar
quietman
Tuned
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 499
Likes: 20
From: Laguna Hills and Payson
Landyot Radius Rods, then whatever.

 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2015 | 08:35 AM
  #11  
biminifred's Avatar
biminifred
New User
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
The Red-Head steering box replacement has greatly improved my handling. I strongly recommend one.
 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2015 | 08:41 AM
  #12  
wpnaes's Avatar
wpnaes
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 30,591
Likes: 1,236
From: N. IL
... or tighten your existing steering box and see how that affects your steering.
 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2015 | 11:13 AM
  #13  
mecdac's Avatar
mecdac
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 149
From: In the field...
Wink

It seems @dabz is "doin' the dab"


 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2015 | 04:48 PM
  #14  
A Rodder's Avatar
A Rodder
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
I did all the typical "mods" to help with the issue.

The last was a Redhead box, that got me over the hump so to speak.

Also the bottom ball joints should have zerks to grease, if not they're original, you can drill a hole and tap in a zerk.

That also helped Combined with the hellwigs, Bilsteins, steering stabilizer, X & modded B codes....etc
 
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2015 | 12:56 PM
  #15  
rsplash40's Avatar
rsplash40
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
I drove almost 200 home from dealer as well, what a ride.. replaced the steering stabilizer and rotated the tires - it was like a new truck. I've had to replace the stabilizer 3 times in just under 5 years, had some luck with leaks in them..

Have done sway bar links and tie rod ends as well but those were just in the last year.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ylekyote
Excursion - King of SUVs
23
Sep 7, 2018 06:20 PM
seldomseensmith
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
23
Dec 16, 2013 11:22 AM
KG Excursion
Excursion - King of SUVs
10
May 1, 2013 09:33 AM
X 03 Jeff
Excursion - King of SUVs
11
Jan 14, 2005 12:29 AM
MPDano
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
15
Aug 2, 2003 12:47 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE