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Old Nov 30, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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Keep in mind that this is from my 1/2 ton but should look somewhat the same inside:



 
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Old Nov 30, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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The worm gear is firmly attached to the steering shaft. The other end of the shaft is attached to the steering wheel, right? The shaft will have to come out of the bottom of the box. Then removing the worm gear from the shaft will be a problem.
Again, I would put it back together and adjust it.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tacomacream
The worm gear is firmly attached to the steering shaft. The other end of the shaft is attached to the steering wheel, right? The shaft will have to come out of the bottom of the box. Then removing the worm gear from the shaft will be a problem.
Again, I would put it back together and adjust it.
Great advice, but I think I have pushed to far.

I checked the clearance between the steering wheel shaft worm gear and the steering sector gear. Visually looks like they are to far worn.

I got the steering shaft out of the box by gently hitting on the threaded end, via a wood block and hammer. She popped right out along with the bearings.

Had to resort to the grinder for the worm gear removal. Cut a slot lengthwise to the steering shaft then used a hammer to remove.

I will need to press the new worm gear back on. Also will have to press out the steering sector shaft to get the new roller in.

I'll keep you posted, wish me luck!





Worm gear removed!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Nice work! The new parts will be worth the effort so far. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tacomacream
Nice work! The new parts will be worth the effort so far. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.
Question,

Noticed when I broke the steering box open there was no oil and minimal grease.

What should I put back in? Also there were no felt or any other type of gaskets to prevent the escape of said missing lubricant.

Thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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The two gaskets that you mentioned should be the only ones you need. You could use those as patterns to make new gaskets or reuse them and use a gasket sealer either way you choose. Fill the box up to the top of the filler cap with gear oil. It says to use 90 wt in the manual. So in that range.
Having no oil in there is not a good sign. You will have to check the oil every now and then after you get the unit put back together just like you would with your transmission.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2015 | 07:39 PM
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Thanks again...the real world is keeping me from doing any work on the truck.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Had a chance to open some parts that were ordered on line. Most of these were a shot in the dark. Most parts look right on-line but just smaller in real life


The clue here is a part number with 81T..... is for the bigger trucks. I realized many of the parts that show fitting older 30's truck work perfect on the 46'


Interesting, my NOS steering sector that just arrived was wrapped in original sealed cosmoline. Fits perfect. Pretty cool!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 10:39 PM
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Lots of places they speced 90w won't hold the stuff when they get older. One such place is the closed knuckles on older 4x4 front steering. I use a combination of 105 lubriplate and the thicker stuff used in grease guns. I've also done that on old steering boxes. Stays lubed and doesn't run out.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 04:20 PM
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Got the new worm gear installed on the old shaft. Heated it to 200 degrees then sledge hammered it into place.

Installed steering sector, bearings and other gaskets.

Put it back together and installed in the truck.

All of the play is gone, well worth the effort.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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nice job! where did you get the parts ! i suppose its not the same ratio as a 1/2 ton!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bernette
nice job! where did you get the parts ! i suppose its not the same ratio as a 1/2 ton!
I got most of my parts from Chucks Truck. Chuck was great and very knowledgeable.

It was nice to talk with someone with tons of experience. He knew exactly what I needed.

My 2 ton required some parts that are harder to come by. So, Macs could carry your parts?

Good luck on your project! Keep us updated.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 10:48 PM
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i have a 2 ton two! just mentioning 1/2 tons because parts seem more common in catalogs.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 08:17 AM
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Nice job on the re-build Craig! Post a report on how she steers now when you get a chance.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 07:23 PM
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I could not be happier, there is very little play. Considering her age, pretty much zero play.

Tracks straight and true down the road.

My teenage daughter wants to drive it to school, just about ready! Wish me luck.
 
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